Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

[OtherGalaxy]

The Downstreamers Deception?



but the downstreamers info actually goes to way before jakk was on the site, iirc

it was there when I joined the forum in 2012 I remember that much

 

[Dead Lock]

The Downstreamers Deception?



but the downstreamers info actually goes to way before jakk was on the site, iirc

it was there when I joined the forum in 2012 I remember that much

It was my mandate. It was successful, in its own terms.

This is my mandate from the downstreamers. To explore the multiverse they created. To look at all the ways life could be played out, all the possibilities inherent in it. To let it run.

'Even if people had to die to achieve that?'

The downstreamers are not destroyers of worlds. They are creators. Enrichers-

I’m still blown away by what I’ve learned of the Old Ones.

The Old Ones created infinite possibility – infinite opportunities for life, for mind. What higher mission could there be?

To redesign an infinite ensemble of universes: what terrible responsibility, what arrogance...

This ain't anything beyond multiversal+. Don't get roped in OG.

 

[GregSteve]

we start with the main stuff

the top tiers are multiversal+ to high degree with mftl+ speeds and lot's of hax = they can still solo 98% of the anime/manga verses easily and overall can cui many cosmic chars

but

they still get cui'd by other top tier verses

so simple

People still living in 2009-12 when they were omniversal and Toguro still beat the hst 1v1

 

[Blade]

weakened raizen's stomach growls being > bleach or pein being > sephiroth

 

[Blade]

downstreamers are multiversal, with several pocket dimensions/alt realities, space/time shenanigans too, a limited state of acausality, being capable of constructing things out of the very fabric of spacetime, as if it were a physical substance or they can transmit thoughts and intentions through time

overall they stronk, but for example, they get cui'd by the tenchi top tiers

 

[Claudio Swiss]

Folks are on that Dimensional Tiering shit
so fuck all y'all Multi,Mega and Omni it's all about the Complex,Outer and Hyper Versals

 

[Dead Lock]

Folks are on that Dimensional Tiering shit
so fuck all y'all Multi,Mega and Omni it's all about the Complex,Outer and Hyper Versals

You argue with discord debaters on the regular, so I'm not surprised that you do use those terms.

 

[Blade]

what

swiss debates with discord posters? the same app which i listed as filler tier on my terrible vs sites list?

bruh

that info is something i shouldn't knew, cuz now your role in the obd 2027 role will be even more meme levels, it's jakklock's fault, boi, he said something he shouldn't had, you know we ain't debating with sites of that level

 

[Dead Lock]

what

swiss debates with discord posters? the same app which i listed as filler tier on my terrible vs sites list?

bruh

that info is something i shouldn't knew, cuz now your role in the obd 2027 role will be even more meme levels, it's jakklock faults, boi, you know we ain't debating with sites of that level

I know some guys in a discord who debate this fight I had Big G winning without the UN

Hahaha.

 

[Cryso Agori]

What about the Xeelee? SB loves to wank that shit. I remember when I made a VS thread with Ohma Zi-O they kept saying that Ohma Zi-O loses because Xeelee has 'uncountable infinities' and has them at megaversal or some shit like that when nearly every feat posted is only like multiversal.

 

[El Hermano]

Yonko Kaido & Big Mom Vs (Pre-Kaguya Battle) Kakashi, Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, and Gai

Team 7 and Gai replace Luffy, Zoro, Kid, Killer, and Law on the rooftop How they fare against these two monster? Battle Prerequisites: Equipment: Standard equipment Preparation: No preptime for anyone 'Bloodlust': All are bloodlusted Knowledge: Everyone knows nothing about their opponents...

forums.spacebattles.com

@El Hermano Explain how dumb this shit is to me.



That's... not how that happened... at all. Kaguya was never affected by Obito's Kamui and was more damaged by Kakashi's Perfect Susann'O Kamui combinations(which are all Asspull as fuck). Those aren't remotely the same.



NO THEY DON'T! Only the Jyubi and Kaguya and the other Jyubi combinations ever scale to that, the fuck?!

The thing with Haki is that the more extreme one's battles are, the stronger their Haki gets in the process, the more it evolves.
I don't recall it being really that inconsistent. It just reached a level where the immense gap that was present beforehand closed the longer the fight went on. It can feel kinda weird at times but from my perspective it was purposefully given that growth mechanic as a comfortable "excuse" for instances like Luffy's Advanced CoA phasing through Kaido's CoC coating, albeit, doing no significant damage in the process. Later on Luffy managed to actually clash with him for a short period once he figured out how to utilize CoC coating and then managed to land more significant blows on him, albeit, to no avail because he ended up getting knocked out without doing much to Kaido aside from being able to match him 1vs1 for a short period.

 

[Blade]

Hahaha.

in discord, standard galactus prob loses from dbs zeno

 

[OtherGalaxy]

This ain't anything beyond multiversal+. Don't get roped in OG.

you know what

I think you're right

this is the only thing I've found that suggests they are megaversal in any way, and it isn't confirmed in-series, it's supposition between two characters

Of course,” Babo said, “She may actually be an expression of the manifold itself—or perhaps the manifold itself, the greater structure of reality strands, is itself self-referential, in some sense conscious. Or perhaps the manifold is itself merely one thread in a greater tapestry —”
“A manifold of manifolds.”
“And perhaps there is a further recursion of structure, no end to the hierarchies of life and mind, which—”
Mane held up her hands. “If we find Her: what will we ask Her?”

so there being more than one Manifold just seems to be an in-universe theory one character holds, unless there's something else corroborating this

 

[Dead Lock]

in discord, standard galactus prob loses from dbs zeno

In discord, femto is on the level of peak Lucifer.

That -p logic.

 

[GregSteve]

I know this is brought up before but I want to get my piece on this:

Sakura vs Yamato

You don't have to be ftl to dodge lasers especially with observation haki being a slight boost you just have to be within the scope of lightspeed

www.fanverse.org

This only ever makes sense if you are so stupid, that it defies all levels of explanation.
Being able to outspeed someone using pre-cog... means you are simply moving faster than they can react...
That's it, somehow, he's taken it that Sanji somehow moved even faster in his Pre-Cog means Sanji is somehow FTL... so FTL Part 1 Lee anyone?

New Fanverse wants
-Calcstacking
-high ends only
-disregard calcs if they think the lore sounds cooler
- some new guys wanna get rid of calcs all together
Probably more but I can't remember all the retarded shit

 

[Claudio Swiss]

what

swiss debates with discord posters? the same app which i listed as filler tier on my terrible vs sites list?

bruh

that info is something i shouldn't knew, cuz now your role in the obd 2027 role will be even more meme levels, it's jakklock fault, boi, he said something he shouldn't had, you know we ain't debating with sites of that level

nigga im bored don't judge me
i seen nigga use those terms

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

What about the Xeelee? SB loves to wank that shit. I remember when I made a VS thread with Ohma Zi-O they kept saying that Ohma Zi-O loses because Xeelee has 'uncountable infinities' and has them at megaversal or some shit like that when nearly every feat posted is only like multiversal.

Basically SB is wrong in virtually most series but a rare few... and yes, Xelee is in that former pile, not the latter.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

The thing with Haki is that the more extreme one's battles are, the stronger their Haki gets in the process, the more it evolves.
I don't recall it being really that inconsistent. It just reached a level where the immense gap that was present beforehand closed the longer the fight went on. It can feel kinda weird at times but from my perspective it was purposefully given that growth mechanic as a comfortable "excuse" for instances like Luffy's Advanced CoA phasing through Kaido's CoC coating, albeit, doing no significant damage in the process. Later on Luffy managed to actually clash with him for a short period once he figured out how to utilize CoC coating and then managed to land more significant blows on him, albeit, to no avail because he ended up getting knocked out without doing much to Kaido aside from being able to match him 1vs1 for a short period.

Okay so basically it's SB talking out of it's ass like usual then.
Because I'm pretty sure Pre-Kaguya, Big Mom and Kaidou would very much beat the brakes out of Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Kakashi.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

New Fanverse wants
-Calcstacking
-high ends only
-disregard calcs if they think the lore sounds cooler
- some new guys wanna get rid of calcs all together
Probably more but I can't remember all the retarded shit

We need to burn it all at this point.

 

[Dead Lock]

you know what

I think you're right

this is the only thing I've found that suggests they are megaversal in any way, and it isn't confirmed in-series, it's supposition between two characters

so there being more than one Manifold just seems to be an in-universe theory one character holds, unless there's something else corroborating this

Note: The Goddess of The Manifold never directly appears and is only referenced/talked about by characters within the story itself, which means that it is possible that she doesn't actually exist.