It was pointed out by Fiamma that even when forcibly taking the power of the Archangel your aligned with, it’s extremely dangerous for any God’s Right Seat member to do so just because their adding a shit ton of power already. Acqua on his own runs on constant 200% overlocking with both Saint Powers and God’s Right Seat powers with his Divine Mother’s Mercy ability keeping both in check. Without DMM, he would literally explode from his two powers otherwise, so adding even more power than that was already too much him.
He took more than half its power before expiring and nearly crippled it too.
That and Gabriel that Fiamma called might have been stronger compared to the clumsily summoned Angel Fall Gabriel that Kanzaki compares Acqua too,
Take the argument elsewhere. Make a thread if you want but this is not the place for it.Do tell. Acqua gets some insane scaling based on Kanzaki sensing greater magical power from him than Gabriel.
Knight Leader has hax to turn anything percieved as a weapon into paperweights with no power for several minutes. He’s a natural counter to most Servants that rely on weapons
Solos the setting? Or that specific thread?Can’t be helped. Ever since I first posted here, I get notifications for every reply on here so I know whenever something is posted. And I’m interested to see the logic in how either Servant solos
Beasts are comfortably star system level minimum.That's great but just means the angel was too much for him and all he did was point it at the ice caps to make up for its lost power iirc.
How powerful is the angel supposed to be, anyway? I dont recall anything that impressive besides really big ice tendrils and being hard to kill because angel. The main threat was that it was going to melt the ice caps in order to power its escape spell (or return spell I guess?) and that'd kinda fuck us all over.
Cu and EMIYA, provided we leave out the moonshit and take the more widely accepted versions of the Beasts/Grands/LB Kings, scale approximately to continental or planetary class from stuff that Karna and Scathach have done, both of whom a full power Cu can hang with.
Ars Paulina is the equivalent to a small galaxy in terms of scope and scale as it’s a scale model of the universe at a proportion where the actual universe is a human body and Ars Paulina a single cell.Yeah Tiamat(literally bathes in a Planetary tier Attack with no damage), Goetia(his AAS Conglomerate is Galaxy level and is equal to a Matured Tree of Emptiness) and Kiara(Compared to Saver and other Boddhisvatas who are explicitly stated to govern the Solar System) absolutely there equally. And Kama is a genuine Universe and has Stars inside of herself. The Foreign God and Queen Draco are given similar build too.
Yep, that's absolutely true as well, also shows how nuts living beings are and potentially how far Servant's Reality Marbles could potentially go in an unhindered space like Imaginary Numbers Space rather than Earth.Ars Paulina is the equivalent to a small galaxy in terms of scope and scale as it’s a scale model of the universe at a proportion where the actual universe is a human body and Ars Paulina a single cell.
You know, the thing just kind of existing solely due to Solomon’s corpse circuits.
Unless Iron Man has some crazy speed feats, he’s not gonna touch them. Weiss has her gravity glyphs to tie him down and they can eventually chip away at his armour. This is just the MCU version, however. Comic IM stomps with ease.
You expect the braindead sheeple that inhabit Spacebattles to be capable of math that isn't simple numbers? That's on you mate.(Referring to the filler where Boo crossed a galaxy) apparently people in Spacebattles don't understand how Boo going solar system to solar system in a whole galaxy nets a much greater distance and speed than the actual diameter of a galaxy
That's the kind of downplay that is truly majestic in how shitty it is.https://www.fanverse.org/threads/goku-vs-superman.1248226/page-4#post-64094898
meanwhile in OldBD
FEP arguing seriously for mountain level superman
never change
Beasts are comfortably star system level minimum.
Of course it's Maddie that made sure the thread got to 4 pages.
From unfunnymaker ofc
Good Lord.read overall some threads from kmc, lads
ngl, they became fully degenerate and creepy levels
well
these sad ningas homo ''joke'' each other about nudes pm's and etc
not to mention, their debate style is fully atrocious, even worse than obd 2008 and even worse than lounge codec levels
def some of them need some prof help too, smh
a really weird and creepy forum
Good Lord.this dude is below pitiful ninga levels, smh, full disgusting
he made a dupe and claimed that he has a wife by posting a pornstar pic from google, limit breaker delusionade zero mode, is activated, smh
While that is hilarious and all, a question I have to ask is, why did you involve yourself in these anti-Sera gay ops?I might as well share the Sera story because it is a doozy and is probs one of the crazier stories in vs debating culture history.
In late 2016 a user by the name of Sera Loveheart joined Vs Battles Wiki, who presented herself as a quirky korean and aspiring writer married to fellow VSB user and Japanese resident VenomElite. Ven had 2 sisters, "Momo" and "Yuel." Beyond that, was helpful with some VN weeb shit and translating some korean and japanese, but at first seemed nothing too wrong except this off feeling. She was too saccharine. It was gross, this was before VSB was alphabet-soup hugbox central and was still like a younger brother of OBD in edginess and all. But beyond Matthew Schroeder simping for Sera, nothing crazy.
Her charisma and manipulation, and introducing her sister, sister in law, her cousin, and "random friends" basically made her a very popular user who seemed very relateable and interesting. Matt was simping for he constantly. Her word would be final, she became staff alongside Ven who she would marry, and eventually she came out to announce she was pregnant around early 2017... This is when things (should've) start to go down hill.
You see Matt's charisma let him become an admin too fast and it was revealed that he was a duplicitous, patronizing, authoritarian, and hypocritical cretin. Alongside his degenerate partner in crime Everlasting, Antvasima being too autistic to properly realize the situation, Lord Kavpeny (Old VSB owner) basically being AFK, and other users like Weekly serving as his soapbox, he was unstoppable, but his mouthpiece, his Goebells, was Sera Loveheart. Critical of Matt? You must have some vendetta against Sera, or vice versa. Sera could do no wrong. She was this lovable Korean wife and proud expectant mother. Me and several users banded together on a discord server to covertly collect data on Matt, Sera, Ever, etc and bring it to Kavpeny to hopefully get them exposed, when the Sera baby incident started.
The math didn't add up, not in any way. Sera’s first child being 5 months premature, from the dates supplied by herself, and this not being an absolute life-changing medical emergency, which is what it would be normally. In Sera’s own words, the baby was “healthy and kicking” - which is not just implausible, but as close as can get to impossible. You can look up the statistics yourself on how births that are 5 months premature typically go. It was bullshit.
One of my friends on the discord was on a hangouts with all of "Team Matt" as we call him, snooping out info. And well one of the things Sera posted was pictures of herself and her baby. One reverse search later and it was all fake. "Sera" was some model and the baby was a stock one and WAY too old for what was claimed. Ever got banned for being a depraved sicko, we rejoiced, but then a member of Team Matt infiltrated the discord and managed to see what we were doing and reported it to VSB. In an instant, most of Team Discord was banned for "doxing Sera." She won, she was exposed for many inner circles of VSB but it was buried and she won. And not only did she win, she doubled down on the gaslighting and lies. She managed to convince me and many other members that yes she posted fake stuff and acted weird but it was to keep her identity private and to cope with depression over her father dying. She seemed to act more chill, she seemed to act more genuine when I came back on VSB. In general I started to legit believe maybe she did do scummy stuff but it was all a big misunderstanding and the real villain is Matt for being Matt, and Sera just acted weird and cryptic for weird reasons but it was all behind us. She even went and forgave my friend who went on the hangouts and leaked the fake pictures of her. So all seemed forgiven and past us. This is 2019.
There are 2 years more to this story.
2020 would come and pass with her coming and going, but with a notable decline in her mental state. She grew more and more deranged. Members of her family and their accounts would "crack" in their writing style and sound exactly like Sera. Venom Elite would claim outright nonsensical stories of fighting a dozen gangsters at once. Then in 2021, the biggest lie came out. That "Momo" ("Ven's sister") had disappeared and likely commited suicide. This happened right after "Momo" debated this one staff member on VS crap disingenuously, got debunked, and promptly ragequit left. Of course the staffer felt mortified and remorseful.
Also when VSB transferred their forums it was discovered several of the Sera family accounts merged together due to the same email... Suspicious...
Well finally it came out. Despite some living in Korea, some in Japan supposedly, it was all the same I.P. Same address. Same person. Sera and all her accounts were banned in May of 2021. Turned out she was supposedly (could be more lies) a schitzophreniac NEET with bipolar and multiple personality disorder living with her sister and living out her deluded fantasies on VSB and crushing and manipulating anyone who stood in the way of them and she basically brought VSB on one twisted ride for 4 and a half years.
Not unlike vs debaters on Twitter asking authors leading questions in order to fish out quote-mineable statements so that they can "win" debates.I don't like SD.net because Mike Wong basically lobbied Legends authors to inflate the numbers for ships so they could validate his (at the time) wank calcs.
It's increasingly sounding like you get pressed at the very idea of DC flying bricks being above solar system level, and that's, again, legitimately unhealthy.They aren't doing this for DC, nowhere near enough evidence to really put them past solar system level, though eventually hopefully they can upgrade soley Flashes and GLs
I only care about Goku vs Superman if I see it, otherwise I care more that I know as much about Superman as I can by reading through my readlist, and that Toyotaro hopefully croak because Dragon Ball Super under him is trash. I have matchups I am much more invested in. I just really don't like how Goku vs Superman is debated because the Superman side is so poorly versed on their own character while the Goku side is just retarded.Of course it's Maddie that made sure the thread got to 4 pages.
@Maddie what the fuck did you think you were doing there? Your neuroticism concerning the "Goku vs Superman" debate is genuinely unhealthy.
Good Lord.
Good Lord.
While that is hilarious and all, a question I have to ask is, why did you involve yourself in these anti-Sera gay ops?
Because, on all fronts, this is legitimately some of the gayest shit I've ever heard.
Not unlike vs debaters on Twitter asking authors leading questions in order to fish out quote-mineable statements so that they can "win" debates.
How little things change.
It's increasingly sounding like you get pressed at the very idea of DC flying bricks being above solar system level, and that's, again, legitimately unhealthy.
If you weren't directly there for the whole Sera shit where "she" literally caused a hive of admins to form around her and causing a literal civil war on a site because she got promoted due to she and her "so called family members" made sob stories about her life just to cause the staff members on that site to start treating her like some sort of goddess?While that is hilarious and all, a question I have to ask is, why did you involve yourself in these anti-Sera gay ops?
>dudes pretending to be girls and messing with underage users is considered regular old drama nowIf you weren't directly there for the whole Sera shit where "she" literally caused a hive of admins to form around her and causing a literal civil war on a site because she got promoted due to she and her "so called family members" made sob stories about her life just to cause the staff members on that site to start treating her like some sort of goddess?
Without even a single one of them realizing that "wait a minute, these people claiming to be her family members and all seem suspect, maybe we should look into it"...
From a site where regular permabans happen because the admins thought that a certain account was a sockpuppet of someone...without any concrete proof of IP matching or whatsoever.
It was a serious issue back then.
Much more serious compared to the regular old drama that occasionally happened back over at Fanverse where some people lost their marbles over.
Yea, it was really that bad, unfortunately.>dudes pretending to be girls and messing with underage users is considered regular old drama now
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