Tfw the whole reason Arturia was chosen to be King over Morgan was because Morgan was too dumb to let the Fae kill themselves off 
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Tfw the whole reason Arturia was chosen to be King over Morgan was because Morgan was too dumb to let the Fae kill themselves off
Lostbelt Morgan gives PHH Morgan too much credit, she would have fucked up like Lostbelt Morgan ultimately would have done.
Would he though? Like playing Devil's Advocate with me for a second with all the Persona shit, It'd at least make them equal.Demifiend still folds all the Persona protags regardless
Demi-Fiend may have beat up God and is equal to Lucifer (iirc), but all of those beings are automatically beneath (in hierarchy) the abyss where Philemon/Nyar reside, who the P1/P2 cast should be at least comparable, since they got their power directly from him and even fight with the latter.
That's what I mean, the reason Morgan wasn't chosen was because she, like Vortigern, would have kept the Age of Gods (and thus the Fae) alive on the British Isles
Which is an objectively terrible thing, the Fae are the literal worst. Got the whole world wrecked by being fucking lazy, stupid bastards
When I say persona I mean 3, 4, and 5, Since 1 and 2 were still called Shin Megami Tensei IIRC while 3,4,and 5 dropped the Shin Megami Tensei partWould he though? Like playing Devil's Advocate with me for a second with all the Persona shit, It'd at least make them equal.
Demi-Fiend may have beat up God and is equal to Lucifer (iirc), but all of those beings are automatically beneath (in hierarchy) the abyss where Philemon/Nyar reside, who the P1/P2 cast should be at least comparable, since they got their power directly from him and even fight with the latter.
That's really just marketing it as a separate series in terms of thematics and tone. Doesn't particularly mean they have no connections.
Regardless, wouldn't that still count as a connection to the mainline series?
There's various Devil Summoner references (which itself references Gotou and Thorman, major characters in SMT 1), the SMT:IF protag is even in P1 and P2, etc.
Hell, Stephen even shows up at the end of Akira's route in SMT:IF.
It's still the same "verse" all things considered. Separating them seems really artificial to me.
Even the fact that Yaldabaoth basically took over the Velvet Room could suggest that Philemon couldn't do anything about it. And since Philemon resides in a realm above the world where Gods/Demons/Personas/Shadows (aka 90% of the verse) are formed, this speaks volumes to the level of the P5 cast. But it's been a while since I played P5.
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The chart is just a visual guide of which series is connected to which + that's not even the chart I use
Devil summoner is related to the original personaverse before the universal reset but that ended after the reset. I'm not sure where this higher realm discussion is even going, we don't use dimensional scaling and the reset is the best feat we have to go off of for Philemon AFAIK
Again, you are trying to force in a comparison that makes no sense in the overall SMT Multiverse which doesn't even work.
Any connection between the Persona Series and SMT literally died the instant SMTIV: Apocalypse and absolutely SMTV explicitly points out that it's the Great Throne that dictates how people see ANYTHING, Collective Unconsciousness doesn't mean jack and of shit(All the latter did was literally was make YHVH truly vulnerable, it didn't cause him to cease to exist)
So I'm not sure at all why you keep thinking Persona 1 or 2 is still ultimately relevant to any SMT game especially after V.
I am going to keep this straight and simple, tell me where Lucifer or YHVH are ever mentioned or involved in any way in persona? And by that I mean true forms, not some random persona appearance that has nothing to do with the real one in some possibly non-canon anime that is at best a cameo.
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The Great Throne? Remind me what that is again?
And what exactly happened in V? I barely remember anything about it.
Well to be fair, it's not exactly "dimensional scaling", but I guess I'll drop it.
The chart is just a visual guide of which series is connected to which + that's not even the chart I use
Devil summoner is related to the original personaverse before the universal reset but that ended after the reset. I'm not sure where this higher realm discussion is even going, we don't use dimensional scaling and the reset is the best feat we have to go off of for Philemon AFAIK
To basically say it, literally makes you GOD and whatever you want to do with it goes in general. That's how it's heavily implied that the Demons we see in the various games look extremely different than they usually are in various games and outright confirms how many of them suddenly became Demons rather than the Gods they truly are.
That's why what happens in the Persona Games makes zero sense with the SMT series at all.
All apocalypse points out is that humans can just perma yeet demons and that all the protagonists are basically unnecessary since any schlomo fodder can do it 
>some random no name soldier can just yeet Evil Patrick Stewart if he just believes hard enough
Absolute trashfire of a lore revelation
Absolute trashfire of a lore revelation
Mordred (Fate) vs Midoriya (BNHA)
The Knight of Treachery from the Round Table will engage with the current host of the OFA power. Mordred Pendragon vs Izuku Midoriya. The battle will take place in the abandoned city in Romenia, where Mordred first fought the golems and Homunculus, except that this time is Deku who will face...
forums.spacebattles.com >literal shonen power of friendship tier bs
Wow I hope to god that was retconed to hell and back because that has to be the stupidest shit you could ever pull in a SMT game.
Alright, my bad.
I got a lot of stuff confused earlier with what I said.
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