don't think Ive ever seen anything that suggest new world could fully win even with everything working together. Which considering the person with one of the most powerful talents and access to player gear got spanked by a guardian wearing their off-duty gear/secondary equipment is hardly shocking
Well yeah if you remove their protection from wild magic and leave the dragon lords their wild magic trump cards they might. (i say might because the dragon lords aren't all the same strength/power. Not all of them have dedicated their existence to fighting off players/creating wild magic to fight them. More dragon lords are disinclined to work together as a matter of course, dragons are as general rule prideful assholes)This seems like a far cry from taking down the combined might of the new world though.
Like imagine if only all the dragon lords team up. I think if you take world items out of the equation they would be able to take out most Guardians one at a time or maybe two at a time.
know that said beams are A rank spells with each having 3 times the amount of energy Shirou possesses and would take an ordinary mage a minute to cast.
I know that a single one can create a moderately sized crater and she can rapidly unleash a lot of them but I'm pretty sure thats because she already had a large amount of magical energy stored.
Edit: I could definitely see her most powerful version one shot Cinder but I'm pretty sure that takes a ton of energy which she gets from the Leyline
Then again when Zouken Hijacks her corpse she's able to unleash several dozen at once, make her own blood explode and then create a massive fireball (granted it seem to deteriorate her already rotting corpse even faster and we never saw what'd it do because of Dark Sakura).
FWI for Cinder's Fire Blast this is the after effect of said blast. I don't know if it matters but she also has that Magma Cannon granted she only ever used it once
Tiamat can remake her Saint Graph by utilizing the black Sea of Life. From her usual Saint Graph status (Femme Fatale), she can grow into a draconic body that exceeds a height of 60 meters. Tiamat, who grew into a draconic body, can cancel attacks that are Rank A++ or below.
Quetzalcoatl doesn't have any durability feats good enough to say she wouldn't die from getting pummeled by Platinum Sperm. And what hax do you think she has that could defeat PS?"Literally doesn't have the DC nor ways to bypass her hax and isn't even faster than her at the end of the day"
Quetzalcoatl doesn't have any durability feats good enough to say she wouldn't die from getting pummeled by Platinum Sperm.
And what hax do you think she has that could defeat PS?
Richard's Excalibur has no feats on Platinum Sperm's level. And what has happened with Theia?She literally took hits from Kingu like it was nothing, how the hell is that nothing when Enkidu was able to block an Excalibur attack from Richard and everything that happened with both Gilgamesh and Theia?
Those are just solar winds. It's a heat attack. One that is not powerful enough to injure PS.Piedra Del Sol?
This is also not hax and not something that Platinum Sperm would let himself be hit by.Her becoming the Comet that literally destroyed the Age of the Dinosaurs? I feel you put too much emphasis on the flashiness of OPM and not actually understand that not all series need big booms to get why they are so strong.
Yeah, and that's weaker than Platinum Sperm, who is stronger than the likes of Superalloy Darkshine, and Beedcake, who destroys a city from a handwave.There's also her being able to lift the equivalent of the City of Uruk and toss it kilometers away.
That's millions of tons even at the lowest end considering how huge Uruk is and it's foundations at that.
Why are you scaling the Demon God Pillars lifting something with magecraft to the durability of the Bel-Lahmu?These are Bel-Lahmu, Tiamat's explicit spawn that can even give trouble to Grand Servant Tier beings(King Hassan and Merlin) getting destroyed by GoB from Gilgamesh(though it's in the Anime version King Hassan has issues with them and Merlin has to explicitly get serious in dealing with them). These Bel-Lahmu are as strong as Demon God Pillars, beings that can change the laws of Reality with their Magecraft for long periods of time(Shinjuku), lift an Country Sized Island thousands of feet in their air while fighting you(Agartha), can peer through the multiverse through someone's soul(SE.RA.PH) and even create a portal to bring an Outer God to the Planet through their own machinations(Salem).
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Richard's Excalibur has no feats on Platinum Sperm's level. And what has happened with Theia?
Those are just solar winds. It's a heat attack. One that is not powerful enough to injure PS.
The solar wind is a stream of charged particles released from the upper atmosphere of the Sun, called the corona. This plasma mostly consists of electrons, protons and alpha particles with kinetic energy between 0.5 and 10 keV. The composition of the solar wind plasma also includes a mixture of materials found in the solar plasma: trace amounts of heavy ions and atomic nuclei such as C, N, O, Ne, Mg, Si, S, and Fe. There are also rarer traces of some other nuclei and isotopes such as P, Ti, Cr, 54Fe and 56Fe, and 58Ni, 60Ni, and 62Ni.[2] Superposed with the solar-wind plasma is the interplanetary magnetic field.[3] The solar wind varies in density, temperature and speed over time and over solar latitude and longitude. Its particles can escape the Sun's gravity because of their high energy resulting from the high temperature of the corona, which in turn is a result of the coronal magnetic field. The boundary separating the corona from the solar wind is called the Alfvén surface.
This is also not hax and not something that Platinum Sperm would let himself be hit by.
Yeah, and that's weaker than Platinum Sperm, who is stronger than the likes of Superalloy Darkshine, and Beedcake, who destroys a city from a handwave.
Why are you scaling the Demon God Pillars lifting something with magecraft to the durability of the Bel-Lahmu?
Kingu did not use Age of Babylon to the extent that Enkidu did in FSF so I don't know where you're getting the scaling from.Being able to wipe away Kingu's Age of Babylon which is equal to Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon... isn't a feat similar to Platinum Sperm? Again, you are putting "Big Flashy Feats" above simple scaling for little reason.
And there's Enkidu being able to stop Theia's Meteorite Attack which not only scattered across the Planet(including one wiping away 12% of the landmass of the Arctic), the US had to write off all of the collateral as 2 Asteroids smashing into each other.
Yeah, and Quetzalcoatl's solar winds are not as strong as those solar winds. They are stated to be able to instantly burn Uruk to cinders, that's about it.Do you know what Solar Winds are?
Quetzalcoatl I will be the one to remove that black mud... No, the Chaos Tide. Quetzalcoatl I can't do an entire ocean's worth, but my Noble Phantasm is enough to clear a perimeter around Tiamat once she gets ashore. Quetzalcoatl I will use my Sun's Pilgrimage: Piedra del Sol to vaporize the mud right out from under her, yes!
Ishtar Eep! She really is the principal deity of South America! That's one heck of a trump card she's got! Ishtar If she'd used this on Uruk, it would've burned to cinders in a
Proof that she is?1. She's as fast as him so that doesn't matter.
Quetzalcoatl's Xiuhcoatl isn't meteor magecraft.2. Considering we actually find out through author sources that Meteor Magecraft ALSO screws with Casuality, he would be hit regardless.
Post Fergus' feat then.Wow, you mean something Servants can easily do? Fergus fucking around with Caladbolg destroyed an entire town in Turas Realta and that was nothing compared to what we see in Agartha and later in that very series.
So again, your scaling capability... isn't looking too hot.
There's no reason to scale lifting an island with magecraft to durability, no. Medea doesn't get durability scaled to Heracles just because she has more magical energy than him. Magical energy doesn't work like Dragon Ball's ki, BLEACH's spiritual energy, or One Piece's Haki.They literally have that same level of Magical Energy? Or did you forget how Nasuverse Mechanics work?
Nein, Solomon shows up after thatNow I'm no Fate expert, but I have the sneaking suspicion there's some context being ignored here.
Like Goetia being severely weakened by Solomon for one.
Kingu did not use Age of Babylon to the extent that Enkidu did in FSF so I don't know where you're getting the scaling from.
And how big is 12% of the Arctic's landmass?
But it was the second large fragment that caused the biggest worldwide impact.
The fragment flew north preserving all of its tremendous magical energy, making the impact of its fall to physically obliterate its surroundings.
It didn't cause visible geographical changes, but its mental shock on humanity was large.
As the observation satellites suddenly showed that
12% of the Arctic ice caps vanished from one footage clip to the next.
Yeah, and Quetzalcoatl's solar winds are not as strong as those solar winds. They are stated to be able to instantly burn Uruk to cinders, that's about it.
Proof that she is?
Quetzalcoatl's Xiuhcoatl isn't meteor magecraft.
Unfortunately, I cannot post the picture itself so I'm going to post the link itself to the page.Post Fergus' feat then.
There's no reason to scale lifting an island with magecraft to durability, no. Medea doesn't get durability scaled to Heracles just because she has more magical energy than him. Magical energy doesn't work like Dragon Ball's ki, BLEACH's spiritual energy, or One Piece's Haki.
We have shit like Goetia's Saint Graph having the greatest magical energy in the setting so far and him getting his arm cut off by regular Servants.
Nein, Solomon shows up after that
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