At least the White Council in The Dresden Files have a much better excuse for not using technology, given that their magic literally causes that shit to malfunction around them (with the more advanced the device and more powerful the wizard/witch, the more likely it is to fuck up). It's not sheer arrogance (although The White Council are arrogant, in that they consider themselves above "mortal" law and only beholden to their own), just an unfortunate consequence of being what they are.
Doesn't stop wizards like Harry Dresden from making use of guns and vehicles and shit whenever the option presents itself, they simply have to use older models. It's really the travel to other countries where it presents the biggest hindrance since, for obvious reasons, they can't go on Planes and anything of the like so they have to travel through the Nevernever (spirit world) when they want to travel like that.
The White Council certainly have their bad moments but they make the Ministry of Magic look like the bunch of immature, incompetent children that they are by comparison.
It's funny because as you stated yourself there are a number of series that actually has various Wizards use tech and magic together in various fashion and hilariously, the Nasuverse is little different despite again what others tell you(Most people think they are technology illiterate because Rin Tohsaka is... despite her being technology illiterate is exclusive to her). There are plenty of Nasuverse Mages that uses Magecraft to not themselves but guns, weapons and vehicles in various fashions(This is also why Fate/Zero has genuine issues because while Urobuchi does try and answer this with the Origin Round, it does not help that Nasu made similar ass shit that's even more fucked up without making Kiritsugu look like a mong for not using Magecraft to enhance his guns).
And it still doesn't help that much because why enhance a gun with potent enough Magecraft is a threat to a whole ass army? There's a reason that in Strange Fake, the US Military refused to ignore The Clock Tower as they alone would whoop their asses wholesale unless they got backup from the Native Americans.
this aint gonna happen if its Naruto vs Fate. I've seen ppl say Naruto is lightspeed at least in vs Fate thread. And now vs MHA he is not even supersonic?
I know, this is not my first or last rodeo seeing this and that was meant to be my point. They keep going into the issues with Naruto speed feats... only to then believe this is not the case with KCM2 and beyond but still apply it to certain characters anyway who would still benefit(Like Kakashi and Guy without Gates and so on). They will then think they are slick and completely change it as if they never argued it if it is a series they want to lose.
You forget the consistent reason why I bring up Universal Shinrabanshoman? I don't bring it up because it was funny, I bring it up because they used it despite how absolutely retarded it was to defeat ORT... just for the literal next thread that was done 4 days later after they "agreed" on it to then say it's insane to believe Universal Shinrabanshoman is a thing. From the very same guy who believed in it to say Universal Shinrabanshoman is a thing and can defeat ORT.
ROB pits ORT and Shinra against each other in a battle to the death. Blood lusted/No holds barred battle. No knowledge. No prep time. No outside help. Both at their peak. Combatants start 20 meters away from each other. Location: They start on the Earth, Neutral multiverse.
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The embodiment of hope run a gauntlet of Shonen villains Rounds Kaguya Otsutsuki (Naruto) Neo-Acacia (Torkio) Cosmic Fear Garou (One Punch Man) Hao Asakura (Shaman King) Soul King Yhwach (Bleach) Ajimu Najimi (Medaka Box) Zamasu (Dragon Ball Super) Godness Yuno (Future Diary) Magic God Othinus...
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It was so legitimately insane, I forgot the thread it was brought it on, but it was used to highlight the explicit bias of Spacebattles... and they tried to act like "That's how VS. Debates work!" and it's like "So you are basically saying outright that you have no actual rules or guidelines or anything even VSB has"? And to this day, they will still against multiple other series if it's a clear favorite they want to win and will use it FOR it if the other side is a series they want to lose. It's why when we disparage the shit out of the FV OBD, there's a reason we state they are Spacebattles 2.0:
It's not a compliment and anyone who is still there and knows that would know how bad of a critique that is.
EDIT: The worst part is that you can easily tell they had their own biases against ORT as they downplayed him any and every way they could before they went with the person's insane ramblings that Universal Shinrabanshoman is a thing based on
Giovanni's ramblings as if anything he says is true. This is despite the fact that neither The Evangelist's reach nor Shinrabanshoman's reach ever extended beyond Earth(Something that's critical in Soul Eater as the Sun and Moon are explicitly far closer to the Earth to the point of being easily reached in Soul Eater) in any legit fashion. Meanwhile even IF you tried to keep ORT at Planetary(which is wrong for so many reasons), it would still be stronger than Shinrabanshoman because of how Nasuverse Earth is structured at the end of the day,
something they constantly refuse to take into account despite their being a thread about this very subject being done in their meta thread.
