Gremmy vs Gear 5 Luffy
For the sake of this thread, Gremmy's outer space feat will NOT count as a creation feat, but a transportation feat.www.fanverse.org
It's NEVER been anything other than a transportation feat, unless you want to keep trying to deal with the inherent contradiction of him being able to make galaxies when he needs at least one clone just to make a continent level meteor.
He's literally only done this to a guy who was his creation to begin with. If he could have done it to Kenpachi, he most certainly would have and yet he didn't. Luffy is stronger than Kenpachi in every way.
Yeah just a shame Gremmy's reality warping is shit compared to that spatial hax haki was able to resist so I see no reason it wouldn't. Especially as Bleach has a very similar system regarding hax and having much more reiatsu (haki in this case).
Again he couldn't do any of this shit against Kenpachi directly, so why is he going to be able to turn Luffy into shit when Luffy is even stronger?
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/tomura-shigaraki-mha-vs-naruto-uzumaki-naruto.1149065/ There is no way Shiggy is taking Kurama away from Naruto.
Or that Naruto is going to have trouble with Shiggy.
BBhoteppu ironically is also like downplaying Fate, even though she scream when others downplay fate...A bit weird.
BBhoteppu forget that Cerunnos' gravity in section 26 is equal to U-Olga's pseudo black hole, and according to the story itself, she is stronger than Zeus. Wodime also stated three times (LB 5,2 section 24 , Beginning of Lostbelt 5,2 and LB6 section 17) LB6 is dangerous for PHH and the Foreign God.
Regarding speed, it's been stated many times across the Fate franchise that they can move at the speed of light, or even faster than light.
FGO is connected to almost fate franchise and that mean there should be cross-scaling.
BBhoteppu ironically is also like downplaying Fate, even though she scream when others downplay fate...A bit weird.
Also there are "many times"? Wasn't there like only 3 or 4 times they are stated to move at the speed of light? Or maybe 5. Can you elaborate which are you referring to?
Also damn, there are really a lot of surge for Frieren's thread.
Eggman just spawns an alternate world and Subjective realities broly into obeying him
He doesn't need wheb first thing he does is use his haxes to make broly instantly loyal to him
Plus........what passives would Broly have to trow at Eggman? All that i can see in the profile are one's he needs to hit eggman first, which......good luck doing that as Eggman just Subjective reality the world to be what he wants
I really don't see why that's hard to believe when, short of RG and up level shit (which Kenpachi doesn't scale to), One Piece feats are just flatout better than Bleach's. Like you don't even need calcs for that, One Piece feats are blatantly more impressive.I don't even agree for a bit that Luffy has better stats than Kenpachi at his absolute peak but he should win through sheer versatility I guess? Assuming he goes straight for the kill.
Says the guy whose trying to pretend Mustache literally sees every future all at once in the other thread, despite the fact we can blatantly tell that's not the case BECAUSE he is caught off guard several times.The OBD will be the OBD, lol.
The exact same way Kenpachi did, just wait for the dumb shit to kill himself and hell unlike Kenpachi, Luffy isn't likely to prevent him from doing that early on.How does Luffy put Gremmy down?
Says the guy whose trying to pretend Mustache literally sees every future all at once in the other thread, despite the fact we can blatantly tell that's not the case BECAUSE he is caught off guard several times.
If we’re talking Legends, a nobody like Brakiss would stomp Frieren, let alone Darth Fucking SidiousLmfao no, the firepower of the Disney canon Palpatine is far beyond anything that Frieren could ever hope to comprehend. EU Palpatine would solo anyone in her verse. Both versions of Palps do have the power to take down Frieren.
Much like Yor Briar (Spy x Family) Frieren isn't that broken or standout of a character, she just stands out because her in character response to a fight starting is to immediately vibe check her opponent. In an extremely lethal manner. Ironically Fern is even better at that, though her comparative lack of hax defences make her a lesser matchup in all other regards.
Point being, this discussion is all ignoring that in character none of these three will respond to a fight as quickly as she will, and I'm pretty doubtful any of them can deal with her opener.
Sauron has nothing. Voldemort is likely to shield if anything, and that won't work. Palpatine will see it coming due to Force reactions but he can't block it and the strongest version of him absolutely does not have the agility to dodge it.
Just like when he tried that against Kenpachi and...still got cut anyway.Nah. If Gremmy imagines he can't be hurt, that isn't doing anything.
This is considered a benchmark for a mage in Frieren. This is a better combat feat than anything the trio have either performed or survived.
While there is a lot of Frieren over-estimating going on lately
this is one of those cases where she is well within her league.
One of the issues Sauron has is that LoTR is just not built for VS debates as it's written as if it were mythology;
characters do things whilst drenched in ambiguity and without explanation of how;
they're depicted in an imaginative state for the reader to watch in their minds.
Honestly the Silmarillion is the world's most eloguent lore dump.
The movie Eye is still >> by holding Barad-dur and the lands of Mordor in place.
The fuck are we talking about here.
Now the lightnings increased and slew men upon the hills, and in the fields, and in the streets of the city; and a fiery bolt smote the dome of the Temple and shore it asunder, and it was wreathed in flame. But the Temple itself was unshaken, and Sauron stood there upon the pinnacle and defied the lightning and was unharmed; and in that hour men called him a god and did all that he would. When therefore the last portent came they heeded it little. For the land shook under them, and a groaning as of thunder underground was mingled with the roaring of the sea, and smoke issued from the peak of the Meneltarma. But all the more did Ar-Pharazon press on with his armament.
Wrong.
Also, the whole "defying the lightning" thing is useless as a feat.
And that's mainly because it doesn't actually say he got hit by the lightning, merely that he defied it. I could stand on the beach and defy the ocean without even getting wet.
Honestly if he had gotten hit directly with some heavenly lightning directly from Illuvitar I couldn't see him coming out of it entirely unharmed.
Unless of course Illuvitar intentionally made the attack so weak that it wouldn't harm Sauron, which on its own would make it useless as a feat.
I find it weird how people assume Infinity can’t tank Blues, Reds & Purples rather than going for the most sensible take which is Limitless users not being invulnerable to their own moves.
It’s consistently shown in-universe that Infinity can tank anything that isn’t hax tailor made to bypass it.
It's Scion (Valdoll in Japan), the final boss from the CAPCOM fighting game, Red Earth (Warzard in Japan).@GaRbS What's your worstgen pfp from?
Most of those from FSN are mistranslations. And the few that aren't are hyperbole.No, there are actually many times Servants can go Lightspeed or even faster(There are quite a few points in F/SN-F/Z-HA era alone where Servants are stated to attack "As fast as light"),
Most of those from FSN are mistranslations. And the few that aren't are hyperbole.
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