I do hate that araki got rid of the whole karmic retribution part of Gold Experience.
I get why cause its busted as fuck, but still
You know what divine spirits have that Tiamat doesn’t have listed? A goddess core. And you are literally using the same logic you are arguing against. A lot of other servant do not have mana burst listed, because it’s such a basic thing that is it downright redundant to include.
He really insist it's just magical energy release because thats the name. And yes originally it is "MAGICAL ENERGY BURST"Altera
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straight up states even though the effect is similar it doesn't have the explosive effect of MB
Like, does he think any spell are mana burst? Because technically they release magical energy“魔力放出” (localized as mana burst) literally just means magical energy release. So you are defining spells by using literal name of mana burst.
tbh if it had RTZ and karmic retribution....
Diavolo just dies when he kills the scorpion during the final fight
Bruh, Artoria don't really use Mana Burst in F/SN because she lack in mana and this guy said Artoria will get snapped like a twig if she didn't. She literally can't fight at full power because she lack mana but she manage just fine.
Hmm maybe. This all starts with me saying "Artoria isn't weak without Dragon Core but obviously will not be as strong without one. She is build around Dragon Core. She can still do Mana Burst albeit weaker". And then it become "Everyone can do weaker mana burst, without dragon core she weak af" which become the argument.That's because they are taking it from her situation in F/SN which is because she's less of a Servant there and more of a mix of her actual self and Servant qualities(That and a bad summon and Master/Servant connection from Shirou).
I remember that because Spacebattles has used that argument multiple times to pretend Mordred is physically stronger than Artoria without Mana Burst even though that makes no sense for a downgraded Homonculus to be stronger than the real thing in any way.
How so? Not that I care who wins either way, even though I like watching Invincible more than most of these shonenshit anime, but I'd like to know where you're coming from on this.Toriko is the only person on the list who can defeat Nolan
What about prior to Season 2? Is the outcome still pretty much the same with speed UNEQUALIZED?Even the Amazon Omni Man is now too fast. If you equalize speed, then you got several on the list that could take him
I’m literally arguing with Season 2 consideredWhat about prior to Season 2? Is the outcome still pretty much the same with speed UNEQUALIZED?
With speed equalized, who could take him in your opinion?
I wasn't sold on it being NC at first but given NC actually did read Moorcock and just either sucked ass at understanding them or lowballed it just to spite you it's seeming more and more like this guy's his dupe. If he was just being a hardass about that stupid respect thread I'd just think he's some bum but he's being too specific now to not have read some of the materialCircus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 8: The Shadow knows
What tone? Also, who are you again? Your tone against all the debaters here, @JayK, @Morgan Blackhand, and @Johnny Silverhand in your debate of course. It comes off like condescending and rude. Especially with you expressing your displeasure about this forum when you're here. And to your...www.fanverse.org
And here we go again.
This guy is definitely either NC or BJ.
Hmm maybe. This all starts with me saying "Artoria isn't weak without Dragon Core but obviously will not be as strong without one. She is build around Dragon Core. She can still do Mana Burst albeit weaker". And then it become "Everyone can do weaker mana burst, without dragon core she weak af" which become the argument.
But really I think I remember it specifically stated in F/SN she can't use much mana. Mana Burst use mana, that would mean she wouldn't use it that much. So bad summon and Shirou being ass master included, in canon she didn't really use it in F/SN isn't it? And this guy say she would've died if she didn't...
Oh....I’m literally arguing with Season 2 considered
No? The dark charm known as the Killing Curse can pierce barriers purely due to its own hax. All Charms in HP work afterall by adding certain properties upon an object or creature according to The Standard Book of Spells, Grade 1.
Properties here can be anything really, from a natural force to even a conceptual idea used to power the Patronus. The protego charm, for instance, imposes the property of "protection" around its target, allowing any wizard or witch to be heavily resistant to a multitude of magic that targets them, no matter how unorthodox. In the case of the killing curse, the author implicates the AK works by imposing the property of death upon the target, given anyone who gets hit by it immediately drops dead without causing any injury to the body, and any trace of violence.
It also explains how it was able to bypass protections granted by Protego, as the AK is effectively killing the protection at a conceptual level. On the other hand, Love, instead of a magic, in Harry Potter verse is a tangible primordial force that can be harnessed unconsciously by living beings to supersede natural forces like death. This is something Dumbledore states in the books when describing the study of Love in the Love room within the Department of Mysteries.
Its also the reason why Harry's willing sacrifice to Voldemort during Deathly Hallows conferred Harry's allies a certain amount of protection, thus the spells Voldemort tried to place on them (even an AK) wouldn't work.
Furthermore, I don't think you can intercept an AK midair with an Experlliarmus or Stupedy unless
a: Priori Incantatem is triggered, where two wands recognize each other as "brothers" and refused to attack one another.
b: You win over the loyalty of the wand opposing you, hence no matter what spell is fired at you, it will never harm you. Its the reason why Voldemort's AK via the Elder Wand could never harm Harry during the final battle.
So the Methode's barrier you mentioned below wouldn't work.
I feel the idea that Frierenverse's defense magic would allow it to block really any spell in HP, especially the AK, quite ludicrous given the intrinsic differences in how the magic systems of both verses operate. For instance, you mentioned previously defensive spells in Frieren specifically attune themselves precisely to the oncoming spell and then apply equal power in the opposite direction. From I recall in chapter 93 of the manga, this attunation is tailored to the mana of the incoming spell.
How would that work via the spells from the HP verse, who don't have any "mana" or magical source powering them? I don't think the energy released by wands in HP is even mana, though it should be noted adult wizards and witches from Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them series mostly don't release beams of energy when evoking their spells, more so their wand tip just glows, and reality tends to bend over to evoke the effect.
Out of the entire group of NC's friends, I actually felt the least amount of antagonism or animus towards Blakk Jakk for pretty much 100% of the time in my experience. That and the fact that he rightfully acknowledged Nik as a piece of shit in a PM with me several years ago on I think maybe multiple or a handful of occasions, still put him in my good graces to this day. Other than that, I never had much of an extensive contact with him and I have no opinion on whether his powerscaling takes are right or not, I'll let you dudes be the judge.Referring to that Genis wanker Black Jakk right?
The same guy certain people are accusing me of pulling the same level of deception as
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