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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Referring to that Genis wanker Black Jakk right?

The same guy certain people are accusing me of pulling the same level of deception as
 
Salfarc said:
Hmm maybe. This all starts with me saying "Artoria isn't weak without Dragon Core but obviously will not be as strong without one. She is build around Dragon Core. She can still do Mana Burst albeit weaker". And then it become "Everyone can do weaker mana burst, without dragon core she weak af" which become the argument.
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Then they screwed that up, Servants can do the equivalent of Reinforcement because that's what their bodies are natively capable of(Since they have absurd levels of Magical Energy going through their veins):
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And yes, this is mentioned in F/SN too so it's not nothing new either...

Salfarc said:
But really I think I remember it specifically stated in F/SN she can't use much mana. Mana Burst use mana, that would mean she wouldn't use it that much. So bad summon and Shirou being ass master included, in canon she didn't really use it in F/SN isn't it? And this guy say she would've died if she didn't...
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It's not that she can't(She was still using Mana Bursts in F/SN), it's that she couldn't use them to her full potential in F/SN unless she had Rin as a Master(Which is why she effortlessly dealt with a whole ass GoB barrage in just 2 swings in the UBW Route when that happened). Otherwise, she's extraordinarily gimped and actually has nowhere near the levels of Magical Energy a Servant should have when they get summoned and her Dragon Heart is not enough to replenish the little she has(To put it into perspective, she should not vanish after a single Excalibur, no way in hell should that even remotely be a possibility unless she's going BP with it)
 

No? The dark charm known as the Killing Curse can pierce barriers purely due to its own hax. All Charms in HP work afterall by adding certain properties upon an object or creature according to The Standard Book of Spells, Grade 1.
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No, they can't and I have to give it to Siriel(for once) in that only Voldemort has ever shown the ability to have a Killing Curse go through a Charm. No one else has shown that capability at all.

Properties here can be anything really, from a natural force to even a conceptual idea used to power the Patronus. The protego charm, for instance, imposes the property of "protection" around its target, allowing any wizard or witch to be heavily resistant to a multitude of magic that targets them, no matter how unorthodox. In the case of the killing curse, the author implicates the AK works by imposing the property of death upon the target, given anyone who gets hit by it immediately drops dead without causing any injury to the body, and any trace of violence.
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Uh yeah no, that's not how AK works... hell, that's not how any of the Forbidden Curses work. The whole reason why the Forbidden Curses exist and are so gamebreaking isn't that they exist, it's the fact that they are literally fueled by sheer negative emotions to such an unreal degree that Harry Potter seeing the person who killed his godfather right in front of him using Cruciatus couldn't do shit to Bellatrix past her fucking around because it wasn't "the right type of hate".
This also ignores that Protego is one of the strongest defensive spells in the franchise to the point the Ministry bought Fred and George's stuff because it literally has a Protego Charm on it.

It also explains how it was able to bypass protections granted by Protego, as the AK is effectively killing the protection at a conceptual level. On the other hand, Love, instead of a magic, in Harry Potter verse is a tangible primordial force that can be harnessed unconsciously by living beings to supersede natural forces like death. This is something Dumbledore states in the books when describing the study of Love in the Love room within the Department of Mysteries.
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Okay, how does that mean AK goes through shields then? All it means is that it simply kills the shield but leaves the user alive... some killing curse right?

Its also the reason why Harry's willing sacrifice to Voldemort during Deathly Hallows conferred Harry's allies a certain amount of protection, thus the spells Voldemort tried to place on them (even an AK) wouldn't work.
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I am about 1000% certain that is some absolute bullshit because that is never a canonical thing or else Sirius wouldn't be fucking dead at Order of The Phoenix... or the Weasleys in Deathly Hallows... or most of the people Harry met that died between those two and during DH!

Furthermore, I don't think you can intercept an AK midair with an Experlliarmus or Stupedy unless

a: Priori Incantatem is triggered, where two wands recognize each other as "brothers" and refused to attack one another.

b: You win over the loyalty of the wand opposing you, hence no matter what spell is fired at you, it will never harm you. Its the reason why Voldemort's AK via the Elder Wand could never harm Harry during the final battle.

So the Methode's barrier you mentioned below wouldn't work.
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Yeah, this is some worthless ass NLF exceptions that again has no basis in canon and completely misunderstanding Priori Incantatem being why Harry wasn't dead at The Goblet of Fire...

I feel the idea that Frierenverse's defense magic would allow it to block really any spell in HP, especially the AK, quite ludicrous given the intrinsic differences in how the magic systems of both verses operate. For instance, you mentioned previously defensive spells in Frieren specifically attune themselves precisely to the oncoming spell and then apply equal power in the opposite direction. From I recall in chapter 93 of the manga, this attunation is tailored to the mana of the incoming spell.
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Then what is the fucking point about mentioning ANY OF THE ABOVE?! Frieren's Magic System isn't even that strong compared to some other series with Wizards in it(Like D&D for the easiest dunk or Fairy Tail/Eden's Zero/Rave Master) so again, what is the point of acting as if people sleep on Harry Potter, then just mention that shit?

How would that work via the spells from the HP verse, who don't have any "mana" or magical source powering them? I don't think the energy released by wands in HP is even mana, though it should be noted adult wizards and witches from Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them series mostly don't release beams of energy when evoking their spells, more so their wand tip just glows, and reality tends to bend over to evoke the effect.
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Funny because I remember a few times that Harry and Co. being winded from casting spells quite a few times... so it has to take from someone or something...
 
Astaro said:
Referring to that Genis wanker Black Jakk right?

The same guy certain people are accusing me of pulling the same level of deception as
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Out of the entire group of NC's friends, I actually felt the least amount of antagonism or animus towards Blakk Jakk for pretty much 100% of the time in my experience. That and the fact that he rightfully acknowledged Nik as a piece of shit in a PM with me several years ago on I think maybe multiple or a handful of occasions, still put him in my good graces to this day. Other than that, I never had much of an extensive contact with him and I have no opinion on whether his powerscaling takes are right or not, I'll let you dudes be the judge.
 

Always makes me laugh when people forget that Mahoraga's regeneration only ever happens when it starts Adapting to your attacks...
That's why he went with Open at the end of the fight, not because it was "to completely disintegrate Mahoraga", it's to simply hit it with an attack it never adapted to and in the typical Sukuna fashion, it was with absolute overwhelming force.
Gojo, meanwhile, had to deal with multiple enemies and Sukuna locked off Red from him with The Wheel.
 
Regular-Nothing Eric said:
Out of the entire group of NC's friends, I actually felt the least amount of antagonism or animus towards Blakk Jakk for pretty much 100% of the time in my experience. That and the fact that he rightfully acknowledged Nik as a piece of shit in a PM with me several years ago on I think maybe multiple or a handful of occasions, still put him in my good graces to this day. Other than that, I never had much of an extensive contact with him and I have no opinion on whether his powerscaling takes are right or not, I'll let you dudes be the judge.
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blakk wasn't a bad person, he just wanked marvel. NightmareCinema was an actual bad human being lol
 
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Xhominid The Apex said:
It's not that she can't(She was still using Mana Bursts in F/SN), it's that she couldn't use them to her full potential in F/SN unless she had Rin as a Master(Which is why she effortlessly dealt with a whole ass GoB barrage in just 2 swings in the UBW Route when that happened). Otherwise, she's extraordinarily gimped and actually has nowhere near the levels of Magical Energy a Servant should have when they get summoned and her Dragon Heart is not enough to replenish the little she has(To put it into perspective, she should not vanish after a single Excalibur, no way in hell should that even remotely be a possibility unless she's going BP with it)
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Yes, exactly and the point is that she canonically didn't really use MB in F/SN, not that she didn't use at all. Because she got gimped too much. She use it vs Herc, she use it vs Gil. Did she use it vs Medusa ? I don't remember, and she didn't use it vs Cu and Koujiro and she is doing fine. And this guy is quite literally saying Artoria will die if she didn't use MB vs other Servants in F/SN :/
 
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Saber literally always uses Mana Burst in fights .
It functions as a passive for her.
Her armor is an aspect of it .
The problem is that its passive /non visual like body reinforcement effects are not conflated in a clear way with its more impressive showings like bursts of speed or exploding shit.

It's just that under most people, she can't take full advantage of it and be in full jet explody mode like Alter .
 
Type-Rey said:
The problem is that its passive /non visual like body reinforcement effects are not conflated in a clear way with its more impressive showings like bursts of speed or exploding shit.
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@Salfarc
Yeah it's kinda of a huge problem in comparison to other types of Mana Bursts which makes themselves more clear(like Karna's) and even Mordred's isn't as hampered by it since while she has the Mana Burst being her Armor deal, she still has the Lightning as an indicator of when it's going all in or even decently.

So Artoria's being pure Magical Energy and little else kinda gives off the impression she's never doing it when she is... that's what her armor is and that's where all of her strength is atleast in F/SN(Before we basically get stuff from other series that imply that Artoria and Mordred are atleast decently strong rather than just "weaker than Rin" before they use their Mana Bursts for physical boosts).
 
OtherGalaxy said:
blakk wasn't a bad person, he just wanked marvel. NightmareCinema was an actual bad human being lol
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Yeah even though I don't completely agree with the Universal-level Heralds BS (outside of maybe their most peak scaling which is above their more consistent solar system to galaxy-level shit I think? I don't read comics but that's what I'm assuming)...

Blakk was the most inoffensive and chill dude out of the group. Wish I could still get in contact with him somehow if he wasn't still congregrating with NC on Discord.
 
Paxton said:
insert that shit he said on atem's profile over... I'm assuming it was elric-related, somehow
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Ah yeah witnessing that shit was pure gold. The unbridled anger and meltdown that arised from his last comments on Atem's blog.

But to be honest, as shitty and contemptible of a poster as NC may be...

I would have actually been willing to pay someone a hundred bucks just to see him join CBR and troll NiKKK ASSta and the other sorry excuse of regular debaters on that shithole excuse of a battle board and rip them apart and go on the guy's Twitter to rip him apart for good measure.
 
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