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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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And they then pretend it's not despite what the story itself states... or my favorite:
Somehow the Shotgun is far more advanced than modern day Shotguns :risigif

It never stops being hilarious on how much they will defend Demon Slayer and just make shit up for it to matter.




No, Saber's Instinct is literally closer to a Spider-Sense that literally tells her what to do than just a simple "True Precognition" but it's funny Spacebattles constantly goes with just that despite Shinjuku literally having Saber Alter know how to dance because she used Instinct to tell her how. :heston



Nah, just plot BS(You can easily put it at Shirou is gimping the shit out of her). It basically vanishes from being an issue in every other series she makes an appearance in.



No, it still tells her how to win even then if the same move is done again, that's why it also told her how to defeat Kojirou's Tsubame Gaeshi the final time when he fucked up his sword.



Yes because manipulating possibilities somehow means that Transparent World will succeed where Instinct failed... that doesn't even begin to make sense...
The entire spacebattle has become a circus
 
The problem is they tried too hard by trying to apply rl physics to a fiction.

When even sf like SW and ST having artistic license to physics, let alone non sf like Fate

The problem with Spacebattles is 2 fold issues that have been building up to where we are now where basically they are seen as the joke of jokes and how they keep bleeding users in the VS. section:

1. Spacebattles was never a VS. discussion site in the first place. Even in comparison to other places or even Fanverse, it's extremely obvious that Spacebattles was never made with VS. discussions in mind as all it was is basically a Creative Fiction(i.e. Fan-Fiction) site of Sci-Fi enthusiasts of all creeds of life, shapes and sizes. and was actually damn near like the OBD of the past(Like they would legit pick fights with other discussion boards like we used to do). The problem is that they decided to make a VS. discussion forum REAL LATE(like one was legit established like only like 8-9 years ago... yeah that recent) relative to how long it wasn't one, this is why it feels extremely weird even in comparison to places like VSB, Reddit or otherwise or how they have a Meta-Discussion Thread but not only barely use it, they don't even try and pull anything from it.

2. All of the actual intelligent debaters have long left for many reasons. Like it's easy as hell to point out why is so many users braindead like they have never known VS. discussion before but the easiest way to legit put it into perspective is the fact that SB has went under what Fanverse went about years before we did. Like there's no joke that Spacebattles is... well... on the Far Left side of the Internet... because there is no joke. It's pretty obvious and evident in how they conduct themselves in a manner that you can get banned for daring to come off like you are hurting someone's feelings, not that you actually are and that's what gets plenty of people banned. It doesn't take anything at all to get banned from Spacebattles, especially when you have Moderators that act like they are the hottest shit under the sun and people who have mods in their backpocket.
I already mentioned how I got perma-banned from the VS discussion not because I did anything to warrant it but the mods explicitly wanted me gone and even came off like they wanted me to GROVEL to them and beg after another year to be allowed back in(I didn't even mention that but yes, that's how it came off and that's why they perma-banned me entirely when I brought the deets here... in clear violation of their own rules, oh? Didn't I mention they violate their own rules and can get you for things stated off their site? There's a reason the OBD have constantly stated SB looks over our shit and there is a hell of alot of proof for that).

These is why now, you have Spacebattles, the horrific combination of the worst of Reddit, VSB and the sheer ignorance of Youtube with the self-righteousness you see from the worst of both sides of the political spectrum all made into one Forum that has no goddamned idea what they are talking about that harbors the "Safe Space" mentality not even Reddit does and Moderators that should have long lost their rights still being Moderators to this day. I.E. An Absolute All Day, All Year Carneval.
 
Shinra can be scaled above adolla with is another dimensional plane that hold all of human concepts like space time math etc. Shinra scales above this. People us this with also how it is stated that he hold the power of all creation to scale him uni+

Outerversal could also be used to scale shinra to because to be outerversal you need to be above or beyond the concepts of space time dimension so on and so fourth. which shinra could potentially scale to. But I don't scale shinra here I only scale shinra uni+

But still puts him above the likes of goku because shinra has ,infinite? immeasurable? irrelevant idk any more, durability. Shinra stopped an attack that is just erases everything it touch kind of like hakai. And how shinra can basically not make goku a sayain anymore.

Anyways enough of my rumbling. I put shinra uni+ because of that
From an idiot on fanverse
 


Most generous interpretation of the feat, 10,000 slashes, would be like 28,433 m/s or Mach 83.555 from a 1/3rd circumference swing of a 0.8 meter arm in the time it takes to fall an average human body length.

1000 slashes would be Mach 8.356

100 slashes would be transonic

someone else give this. And its already rejected
well then , the previous muichiro calc sucked, but a friend of mine made one that's way better in all aspects, he was very meticulousas well, there is a lot of details and everything is well explained

i'd copy paste it here if it wasn't for the image limit, but it's here


the end result was mach 13.27



with all the blitzing shenanigans happeneing after this, yoriichi is pretty much guarranteed to be in the triple digits of mach even if you low ball the living hell out of him, there is no 2 ways about it


how fast is this guy again?



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And apparently the calculation comes from VSBwiki

So they really are that ignorant of the Hard Science and Physics they love to cower behind?



Being 800 Meters and being virtually a few meters apart is no difference between Uzi shots and Shotgun pellets because as @Paxton stated, you would still need to be fast enough to catch each individual pellet and bullet to a far greater speed than just catching one bullet because... there are multiple bullets and pellets being fired at you at once...

Again, if they wonder why VSB and Reddit makes fun of them in addition to us, it's literally being massive hypocrites whenever the situation demands and:



That's what they are crowing on about? That hilariously makes the feat even less impressive than what they are desperately pretending means dick. Atleast VSB tried to use the godawful Manga pages for that.

EDIT: At this point, they think they are getting a rise out of us but me? It's hilarious as hell seeing them break the hell down like this and basically going full hypocrite in that they just cannot give stuff like the Nasuverse and Star Wars among other series a break.
It's just the funniest shit imaginable for them to legit prove everything I said about them right.

She still going!

Okay, so then… you agree that there's no need to be faster if you can consistently react to a single assault rifle bullet after it's fired. (As an aside, SMGs are not assault rifles.) The only times that blocking bullets isn't enough is if you're aimblocking.

That's a whole lot of words that mean approximately nothing. Why don't you show some actual math to back up your own absurd claims? Because the whole "assume the bullet takes 1 second to reach Hansa" argument requires him to be hundreds of meters away, which he very blatantly isn't (the effective range of SMGs cap at double digit meters).

So far all you've shown is a woeful lack of understanding of scale and speed, as well as basic kinematics. And your understanding of guns is frankly even worse than a cursory Google.
 
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The main issue is Shigaraki is very much liable to just literally turn the Grail War off by turning Snowfield into a crater.
Since, if he does that before Enkidu and Gilgamesh even fight, he basically sidesteps the entire True Half of the Grail War (at least if I recall the order of events right, in that the fight happens before Richard is summoned, and after he's summoned the entire 'True' lineup is then summoned.)
And with Decay being used, the entire master roster besides Tine and Enkidu's master will die, since they either won't be able to react or their servant simply doesn't have the capabilities to save them.
Pale Rider's master will surely die, the entire police force will be destroyed without any response and I doubt Dumas will be able to get out as well, etc. The folks who would summon the true servants also likely die, specifically Alcides' master gets obliterated before he can even summon and edge-ify Herc, stuff like that all just turn to dust along with the entire city.
By the end of Shigaraki just touching the ground and Snowfield getting turned into couple kilometer deep chasm stretching a couple hundred kilometers in all directions, the only ones left would probably be Gilgamesh and Tine, Enkidu and his master, maybe Franchesca, and then All for One and Shigaraki with their respective servants.

If Shigaraki immediately goes for nukes (And since its current Shiggy diggy, I don't see why he wouldn't), he and AFO literally will not have to deal with Alcides juiced on plot. (Again, presuming I'm recalling the proper order of events correctly for FSF).

Of course, if both AFO and Shigaraki appear, I think Shigaraki is more likely to just go to kill All for One than he is to nuke the city immediately, since All for One would likely try and take over his body again. In that case it becomes which of the two can win the war while also trying to sabotage each other.

When it comes to the Master-servant 'pairings' here, Nameless Assassin would fucking hate All for One (so nothing different from Jester), and Jack and Shigaraki would probably get along decently well even with Shigaraki's destructive impulses.
Presuming AFO and Shiggy work together, as I said, the best course of action is to just nuke Snowfield with Decay to essentially remove everyone from the board, but that still leaves Gilgamesh and Enkidu to deal with, which is a pretty hard bargain to drive no matter how strong Shigaraki is at this point or the Zabaniya's/quirks available to Nameless and AFO.
Again, this is dependent on when the Gil and Enkidu fight happens, and if Ishtar is already present or not, as well as who is summoned when, but Decay ==> Wipe out Snowfield and the surrounding State ==> ??? ==> Profit is probably Shigaraki's best method for victory here since it stops Alcides from going plot mode, but it also means Gilgamesh and Enkidu are around and Enkidu would probably be pissed at the massive devastation of nature.
Shigaraki could probably deal with Alcides before he juices himself on pure plot but after Gil goes down, but at that point Ishtar is around meaning she can just shit out Gugalanna to flatten him even harder than Gil or Enkidu, so its hard to say.
Quote from Nursery Rhyme @Xhominid The Apex. :heston
 

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I'm going to have an aneurysm at this point :giogio
 
Quote from Nursery Rhyme @Xhominid The Apex. :heston

I mean it IS Nursery Rhyme, the dude that dicksucks MHA so hard, he legit believes the UA Building itself is somehow the size of a City and thus Bakugo is City Tier due to it alone amongst many other ridiculous ass shit like his attempt to wank the fuck out of Deku's Danger Sense and Nagant's shooting capabilities...

The main issue is Shigaraki is very much liable to just literally turn the Grail War off by turning Snowfield into a crater.

And immediately gets sniped by Gilgamesh and Enkidu who the former wants to play with his friend and the latter is NOT playing that shit. It is funny though that Nursery is acting like you can destroy a Grail War by destroying the area it takes place in... when that's not how that works(You have to destroy the Grail and GL with anyone in MHA doing that, especially since the Grail can be moved as it was gonna be despite happening midway in Strange Fake itself and in Apocrypha).

Since, if he does that before Enkidu and Gilgamesh even fight, he basically sidesteps the entire True Half of the Grail War (at least if I recall the order of events right, in that the fight happens before Richard is summoned, and after he's summoned the entire 'True' lineup is then summoned.)

Man Nursery's Memory is shit as the True Grail War happened not that long afterwards and some of the True Servants was already summoned beforehand.

Pale Rider's master will surely die, the entire police force will be destroyed without any response and I doubt Dumas will be able to get out as well, etc. The folks who would summon the true servants also likely die, specifically Alcides' master gets obliterated before he can even summon and edge-ify Herc, stuff like that all just turn to dust along with the entire city.

Yes, Pale Rider is somehow gonna allow Tsubaki to die because of Decay... despite Pale Rider literally watching over the entire damn city and scared Enkidu and Gilgamesh(primarily Enkidu) out of their fight because they was scaring Tsubaki with the thunderstorms they created and being able to force people to stay in the city... can somehow do nothing about the crazed madman that is a threat to her existence for how unstable he is?

Of course, if both AFO and Shigaraki appear, I think Shigaraki is more likely to just go to kill All for One than he is to nuke the city immediately, since All for One would likely try and take over his body again. In that case it becomes which of the two can win the war while also trying to sabotage each other.

So basically both of them die because they are a bunch of jackasses then?

When it comes to the Master-servant 'pairings' here, Nameless Assassin would fucking hate All for One (so nothing different from Jester), and Jack and Shigaraki would probably get along decently well even with Shigaraki's destructive impulses.

...Sigh
So Nursery is going into fan-fiction territory too? Because there is no reason why Berserker Jack and Shigaraki will work together considering Berserker Jack doesn't want people to idolize him or want to become him. Shigaraki being a mindless murderer that doesn't give a flying toss and wants to murder everyone(like you keep puffing up) is the LAST person he wants to work with.

Presuming AFO and Shiggy work together, as I said, the best course of action is to just nuke Snowfield with Decay to essentially remove everyone from the board, but that still leaves Gilgamesh and Enkidu to deal with, which is a pretty hard bargain to drive no matter how strong Shigaraki is at this point or the Zabaniya's/quirks available to Nameless and AFO.
Again, this is dependent on when the Gil and Enkidu fight happens, and if Ishtar is already present or not, as well as who is summoned when, but Decay ==> Wipe out Snowfield and the surrounding State ==> ??? ==> Profit is probably Shigaraki's best method for victory here since it stops Alcides from going plot mode, but it also means Gilgamesh and Enkidu are around and Enkidu would probably be pissed at the massive devastation of nature.
Shigaraki could probably deal with Alcides before he juices himself on pure plot but after Gil goes down, but at that point Ishtar is around meaning she can just shit out Gugalanna to flatten him even harder than Gil or Enkidu, so its hard to say.

So you admit you are just going pure fanfiction at this point including Shigaraki acting so extremely out of character, Pale Rider acting out of character and even Enkidu and Gilgamesh not using their abilities to just get Shigaraki off the board?
This is funny too because yeah if Ishtar is there, their whole plan is even MORE fubar since Ishtar can just fuck it all up with her presence, none of this works at all and this isn't getting into if Shigaraki's Decay can even work with the MASSIVE Magical Energy interference the Grail would be giving to the entire area.
 
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