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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Salfarc said:
Yeah thought Tsukihime remake power boost is to keep up with Fate's powercreep if anything.
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It was, the issue is like with everything is that people don't like reading and Tsukihime fans really, REALLY want a W on Fate fans for how the former grew far bigger than the latter.

TYPE-Moon/Nasuverse Feats/General Thread - People Die If They Are Killed Edition

There's also the fact that the "Light of Judgement" is not remotely an exercise of Rhons full power. It's closer to Gil flinging a single sword out of the GoB than a True Name Release. Lion King is spending the vast majority of her power creating the Spear Tower, which is basically an...
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Nasu: Back when we established the abilities of the 27 Ancestors, we thought having a certain level of power was enough to make one a top ranker among Dead Apostles. But, judging our dear members of the 27 Ancestors by the post-Fate/stay Night Kinoko Fantasy standards, the ones who are just "relatively amazing" will have to leave... In our current era, having decent strength and abilities doesn't cut for someone trying to call themself a Dead Apostle Ancestor. I'm sorry, better luck next incarnation!

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Yeah, FGO has a series of world-threatening enemies, so the Dead Apostle Ancestors could feel lacking if strong enough in comparison.

Nasu: FGO introduced a lot of new lore. But FGO's scale is only that large because TsukiR was produced first and laid that groundwork. Without TsukiR, FGO would have ended as a much smaller story. In that sense, pausing TsukiR's production to produce FGO paid off, and we'll get the brand new experience of seeing people learning what those plot points they've seen in FGO were about.
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The issue is that people took what the PRODUCER stated over what NASU stated as Nasu made it extremely clear that all that has happened is that they are "evened out".

Salfarc said:
Though I don't see much people saying TsukiRemake>Fate.
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You don't look around enough...
I see it in plenty of Fate Reddits, Tsukihime Reddit is full of it, Beast Lair has people fully believing it's the case and I have seen people dead ass state that DAAs are on the level of Beasts/TYPEs unironically because of that.

Salfarc said:
I however seeing Bleach>Fate still
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That's funny because if anything, Bleach's feats and statements tend to be hot ass compared to Fate's and that's even with the anime basically making things look slightly more impressive.
 
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I wouldn't have any issues with Atheists if they wasn't so gungho on basically trying to sell you their slant because of their extremely retarded takes that "people do the same thing for religion" when I rarely see that in my lifetime outside of being in a Church and my Mom expressing worries and issues over someone in the family switching religions.

It's more retarded they took on "believing in the science" when science is all hypothetical and most scientists believe in a higher power anyway BECAUSE we cannot fully explain shit.
 
Paxton said:
I feel like it's best if we try not to generalize any community :char
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As much as I agree I can't not generalize the Overlord community as Ainz wanker now. And Bleach is getting close. I am getting biased stereotype and only randomguy1 here is the guy I think safe
 
new fantastic 4 issue
Silver Surfer finds a dead galactus from the future buried beneath the earth covered in energy from the F4
confronts reed about it
reed isnt taking it too seriously even though surfer is pissed
says its gonna take some time to explain
surfer says he better get cracking cause we want an explanation
Galactus materializes out of thin air
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Reed for fucks sake dawg what did you do
 
Salfarc said:
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Guy really want to push the idea that Shirou can solo Salter if he never fought Berserker
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Sparks Liner High Shirou briefly approached EMIYA, but he doesn't have EMIYA's longevity and stability. He has the stats to defeat Salter, that's clear by the fact his attacks work and he could trade with her for a few dozen strikes. He ain't accomplishing this majority of the time, and it requires she be completely unable to True Name Release Excalibur Morgan. Being able to win a minority of the time is already a victory for him given his general weight class. Calling for more is silly.

You can argue had he not fought Herakles, he probably would have landed the killing blow before his mind voided from the arm's strain, but without that he also likely wouldn't have acclimated to the arm enough to approach EMIYA in the first place either.
 
ChaosTheory123 said:
Sparks Liner High Shirou briefly approached EMIYA, but he doesn't have EMIYA's longevity and stability. He has the stats to defeat Salter, that's clear by the fact his attacks work and he could trade with her for a few dozen strikes. He ain't accomplishing this majority of the time, and it requires she be completely unable to True Name Release Excalibur Morgan. Being able to win a minority of the time is already a victory for him given his general weight class. Calling for more is silly.

You can argue had he not fought Herakles, he probably would have landed the killing blow before his mind voided from the arm's strain, but without that he also likely wouldn't have acclimated to the arm enough to approach EMIYA in the first place either.
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The guy argue Shirou perform better than Medusa and about to win vs Artoria Alter.

Good point about the acclimation to Emiya's arm though, without pushing himself vs Heracles he probably wouldn't perform as good as he does vs Artoria Alter
 
Salfarc said:
The guy argue Shirou perform better than Medusa and about to win vs Artoria Alter.
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Hard to compare the fights. Shirou's was much shorter than what Medusa had going on. He did win, he has the stats to win, but the circumstances for the win are particular to the location and timing. Had he just kept trading strikes, he was going to lose, and badly. It would have just been a more protracted exchange than the one between Fate Shirou first projecting Caliburn and Herakles. Gambling on EMIYA's finisher was his only move and it just happened to work in his favor until it didn't and his brain boiled over to a blank slate.
Salfarc said:
Good point about the acclimation to Emiya's arm though
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People need to pay attention to the whole story shrugs
 
ChaosTheory123 said:
People need to pay attention to the whole story shrugs
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It's crazy how little people do that and then they get assblasted if you tell them that...
I know because I have been negged on Reddit plenty of times of telling people things that happened in the story itself because they refused to believe it.

EDIT: For instance, I had been negged for having the audacity... to tell people that time as a concept doesn't exist anymore in the Bleached World and it's something that Mash even comments on because "it makes no sense that time stopped"...
Even though considering there is literally nothing but a fresh breeze and an unchanging sky, lack of Sun or other stars, etc, etc.

Or the fact that Nasu creates loopholes, he doesn't actually break his rules(Which is what fanon loves to go with), Mages aren't as simple as all of them are being sociopathic monsters that don't give a fuck about Humanity(That's more Harry Potter Wizards) and that Tokiomi in F/SN is vastly different than his F/Z interpretation(If anything, he's closer to his Servantverse self).

It's well known that the Reddit Nasuverse Community is freaking stupid, genuinely dumber than alot of other places that deals with the Nasuverse.
 
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