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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Adamant soul said:
Okay let's not be ridiculous about this.

The Underbelly worked specifically because the seals Aizen was wearing created gaps in his reiatsu that Nanana was able to shoot through and knock him out. It's much more akin to the True Shikai Ichigo vs Askin fiasco than it is Aizen being that weak.

Liltotto is also only stated to be one of the stronger Fem-Nazis, yes she probably is still on the higher end of Mid-Nazis but that's about it. She's not beating versions of Aizen that can beat the Exiles in any state, let alone Dangai Ichigo.
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I'm more explaining those very factors get rid of the Transcendence notion as well as the fact that we can't just say that Dangai Ichigo and Monster Aizen would matter in this arc alone because "Their Reiatsu cannot be sensed" than anything else of that nature.
Maybe I did push it but I don't fully agree since none of the Exiles was legit going in outside of maybe Yourichi(And Yourichi tends to get some weird shit down like she can hurt herself on Yammy's Hierro which never made any sense unless we go with her still being massively rusty till the Post Timeskip)

Adamant soul said:
Well I would assume he did actually watch the fight or he wouldn't be able to make the comparison. He did show up immediately as the seal was kicking in after all.
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I'm more talking about the dude saying Urahara comparing Kurohitsugi the entire time which meant Urahara would have been surveying it for far too long vs. more seeing the final bits which would make sense.

Adamant soul said:
Now I do actually go with the idea of Bankai Yamamoto being stronger than SOME of the Hougyoku forms at least. Monster Aizen and Dangai Ichigo might be pushing it just a little bit.

Just saying you might be going a bit too far in the other direction here.
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Honestly, I doubt Bankai Yamamoto would have any issue with Monster Aizen or Dangai Ichigo but that's more of Aizen and Ichigo really not coming off all that impressive in the grand scheme to be frank(Gin's Bankai can still injure the form before Butterflaizen is the easiest point even if "Aizen allowed it" which is bumpkiss).

Adamant soul said:
But yeah in terms of pure visuals, nothing overtakes Gremmy, which would still be a stupid argument but it's not one that helps pre-skip supporters.
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I'll calm down, I'm just tired of people using those stupid feats for "maximum power" when it's the same shit you usually see in most Shonen or most media.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
Headcanon is one thing when it comes to Bleach but this shit is absolute fucking denial to the highest degree at this point.
The Manga literally has Yhwach see TS Ichigo > Dangai Ichigo(Who literally has seen all of the Soul Reaper fights), they even bring up that Ichigo's reiatsu of him "truly getting serious" literally has him be seen as "not truly vulnerable" due to how much reiatsu he's pouring out:
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And this is not counting Horn of Salvation(Which hurt Soul King Yhwach) and his Bankai(Which Yhwach made it absolute priority to break) but somehow... somehow
Dangai Ichigo is still stronger because of... demeanor and soloing Aizen? You mean the Aizen that grew stronger than that and yet is still seen getting torn apart by all of Yhwach's attacks unlike Ichigo?

There's headcanon and then there's delusion.
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Doesn't the anime introduction of his new blades also imply TS > Dangai?

Like, when Ichigo accepts his true Zanpakuto, he starts off listing shit he did he was wrong about in regards to how he saw his spirits, saying he won't ask old man Zangetsu to give him power anymore, nor to tell White to fuck off. Then he says he won't ask them to fight alongside him anymore either, and it pans to a flashback of Dangai/Mugetsu. Then he accepts the new Zangetsus, stating them to be him.
 
OtherGalaxy said:
I think basically every claim there was wrong wtf


The Deceptigod is an amalgamation of thousands of Decepticons and there's no real indication its power extends beyond that, it doesn't even manage to damage the one single planet they're all on in any notable way. D-Void itself is a sentient universe, but harming this extension of itself is in no way universal. Even taking this at face value that injuring the D-Void, which really isn't even a physical being anyways, makes him universal it would be a tremendous outlier contradicted numerous times just in this one author's run.

Note: he is talking about G1 Marvel comics Megatron here who....has never even heard of the Grand Black Hole and the Singularities. It's also completely insane to equate the multiverse destroying black hole created via extremely specific circumstances to just any random black hole, from a bio written decades before the GBH was even a thing and that was just referring to generic real life black holes.

He's scaling Cybertron being launched out of orbit in the Marvel comics run specifically to Megatron individually to get him to solar system level, which isn't even suggested by the comic at all.

This is true (or close to it anyways) since Alternity Megatron actually has these multiversal & higher dimensional feats however


Not only do we have no information suggesting Master Megatron was ever part of Alternity Megatron's hivemind, he is just flat out not stronger than Primus, even the individual Primus in the show.
With the Omega Lock, a portion of Primus' power, he is still beaten by the planet leaders+Optimus...who are still powerless to close the Grand Black Hole on their own and need Primus to do it. It's just Galvatron boasting because he's geeked up off the God Powers, there is no reason to take it at face value and his actual feats with said power are already very respectable, there is no need to wank or take it out of context.
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He has the potential to be multiversal. His bio states he can link up interdimensionally to a black hole (the Unicron singularity is a black hole).
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this is like saying i have the power to copy an insect (super perfect cell is an insect) so i can be solar system level
 
4 universes specifically is such a hilarious number to arrive at just going “well it was going to destroy the multiverse over time” makes way more sense as a counter argument than that. I can’t even comprehend how he got to that conclusion even though he explained his methods
 
GoldenHeart said:
Doesn't the anime introduction of his new blades also imply TS > Dangai?

Like, when Ichigo accepts his true Zanpakuto, he starts off listing shit he did he was wrong about in regards to how he saw his spirits, saying he won't ask old man Zangetsu to give him power anymore, nor to tell White to fuck off. Then he says he won't ask them to fight alongside him anymore either, and it pans to a flashback of Dangai/Mugetsu. Then he accepts the new Zangetsus, stating them to be him.
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Basically but the anime tends to fly into the Iruzanshou training more often than not that Ichigo has gotten BS levels of powerful alongside getting his True Zanpaktou and full understanding of his powers at that too.
Basically think of it as basically the Old Supreme Kai + The Water that Kid Goku drank to fight King Piccolo deal.
 
wow, fanzzzzzverse still loves me

i decided to join and mock them, while promoting with a sub stealthy way olf, and they got me this ''This message is awaiting moderator approval, and is invisible to normal visitors.'' for both my thread and post







thanks bmxxx, i am glad ur gps still is on, when i post :jordangif
 

Do all bankai boost stats

I am curious if I have been getting it wrong all this time What do most think . Regardless of the bankai does your speed , reaction , physical strength automatically increase ? Discuss Ps: educational thread inspired by @Adamant soul Want to know what others think .
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Wow I am literally the ONLY one who voted yes.
How the fuck do so many people misread a series that bad? :jordangif
 
Honestly, don’t think Bankais like Soifon’s for example directly increase her own stats
 
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