Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

[Xhominid The Apex]

not just Champions or Ultimates

He knocked down Megas like Argomon and Craniummon. he can also keep up with OmegaShoutmon in taking down VenomMyotismons in one punch. and managed to OHKO multuple MaloMyostimons with a single punch.

Hell the nigga was able to punch fucking air pressure from sword swings. his punches are absolutely STUPID

Yeah, that's WAY too much for Touma, especially as Marcus isn't getting any real magical or outside amps, those are just all him.
Touma is getting flossed as does most series really.

the punch merchant is not beating someone who can fly

Marcus has explicitly punched beings that can fly and I think he even outsped a few of them personally, pretty sure even episode 1 Marcus literally punched a flying Champion so...

based on calcs the best I recall is Chariot being 70x ftl (in reactions/attack speed obviously) and Kars being 40x ftl for his laser feat. VSB got over 100c for Chariot or some shit but it’s splitting hairs at that point

the Joseph/Caesar Aja stone “dodge” if you can call it that was 9x or something but I’ve always been skeptical of that one

I don’t think it’s gonna help them a lot though, JoJo’s one of those series where “travel speed” if you can call it that actually is functionally way lower

Yeah, Metro Man has his infamous speed feat in which he basically had hours while everything was basically standing still so MFTL is an understatement for how fast he was.

 

[Paxton]

Touma lose, last time you agreed

nuh uh

DK Touma commands Marcus to punch himself in the head until he's dead. No counter to this.

Punch. Merchant.

in the words of MB: biggatons aren't everything

 

[Astaro]

One thing I will say is supernatural no longer matters for whatever this fight is if it’s DK Touma

He literally doesn’t even have Imagine Breaker anymore

 

[Paxton]

 

[Paxton]

One thing I will say is supernatural no longer matters for whatever this fight is if it’s DK Touma

He literally doesn’t even have Imagine Breaker anymore

Also, if I'm remembering Savers/Data Squad correctly, Marcus does these feats through digisoul/aura shenanigans, and not just pure muscle or raw physiology

 

[ChaosTheory123]

beating someone who can fly

Don't care about the context here, because this statement itself is silly

Much like many things in this hobby, shit like flight only matters relative to the speed of the combatants being similar with sufficient starting distance or superior speed in general.

 

[CrossTheHorizon]

nuh uh

DK Touma commands Marcus to punch himself in the head until he's dead. No counter to this.

Punch. Merchant.

in the words of MB: biggatons aren't everything

And Marcus ignores him like he ignores everything else that tries to keep him from punching people. Guy punches out reality warper on a regular basis :zaru

Also does DK Touma have like hypnotism powers or something

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Don't care about the context here, because this statement itself is silly

Much like many things in this hobby, shit like flight only matters relative to the speed of the combatants being similar with sufficient starting distance or superior speed in general.

This. It's why the concept of flight on it's own as SB uses it is... really freaking bad vs. how flight is actually used in most of fiction which is actually more realistic in any fight.
If you ain't fast enough at all for that flight to matter or able to deal with inertia or otherwise, the concept of flight is nothing more than making yourself an obvious as shit bullseye and having long range attacks don't matter if you make it even MORE obvious and your opponent can already react to you.

 

[Paxton]

And Marcus ignores him like he ignores everything else that tries to keep him from punching people. Guy punches out reality warper on a regular basis :zaru

Also does DK Touma have like hypnotism powers or something

Ok but are there any actual instances of him ever resisting.. like, literally anything. I can't think of a single ability used unsuccessfully on Marcus in Savers/Data Squad.

also yeah, he does (sort of)

“Did you command it? The intimidation of the crowned dragon king can command all living things, but also all inanimate objects?”
Those words carried deeper meaning than it initially seemed.
And not just the silly risk of CRC himself obeying the command if he got careless.

- page 167 of Genesis Testament Volume 9

super duper mind control that commands reality itself

It's the main power he gets, but there's more than that.

 

[Astaro]

Fucking hell, just make the damn fight in the Vs Section

 

[Paxton]

about that

 

[Paxton]

https://onelastforum.com/threads/the-rules.103/post-48209

"2. Threads involving Othinus/The Magic Gods/Anyone on their level"

 

[Astaro]

The heck

Are any of those rules still in effect @Masterblack06 ?

 

[Mr.OMG]

Also does DK Touma have like hypnotism powers or something

DK Touma usually controls the laws of the world through fear. Like, the Crowned Dragon King's presence is so terrifying that the world and all living things obey his orders. Angel Dragon can control people's minds with feathers, only the feathers need touch with humans.

And he can also use his blood to mimic a Rorschach test to pull knowledge from an enemy's mind. He can use this to learn the enemy's magic, but the problem is that Touma himself doesn't know what knowledge he's learning.

 

[CrossTheHorizon]

Ok but are there any actual instances of him ever resisting.. like, literally anything. I can't think of a single ability used unsuccessfully on Marcus in Savers/Data Squad.

also yeah, he does (sort of)




- page 167 of Genesis Testament Volume 9

super duper mind control that commands reality itself

It's the main power he gets, but there's more than that.

Well the computer that controls the Data Squad server can't delete him. Also the Royal Knights are supposed to have a bunch of hax abilities. For that matter Myotisomon and MaloMyotisomon are able to mind control anything around them in most of their appearances.

Like if it's just reality warping with another flavor then Masaru literally doesn't care. Dude can override the laws of the Digital World because "fuck you punch harder"

 

[Paxton]

Well the computer that controls the Data Squad server can't delete him. Also the Royal Knights are supposed to have a bunch of hax abilities. For that matter Myotisomon and MaloMyotisomon are able to mind control anything around them in most of their appearances.

Like if it's just reality warping with another flavor then Masaru literally doesn't care. Dude can override the laws of the Digital World because "fuck you punch harder"

Can the version of Yggdrasil in Data Squad even do that to begin with?

I remember a similar conversation on Fanverse regarding the Sovereigns from Adventure being different from other portrayals in the series, so they don't scale like that (same with other Digimon), I believe?

@Qinglong probably knows what conversation I'm talking about

 

[CrossTheHorizon]

Can the version of Yggdrasil in Data Squad even do that to begin with?

I remember a similar conversation on Fanverse regarding the Sovereigns from Adventure being different from other portrayals in the series, so they don't scale like that (same with other Digimon), I believe?

@Qinglong probably knows what conversation I'm talking about

I think so? His whole plan was to delete both worlds and start over because the Royal Knights stopped believing in him or something.

 

[Masterblack06]

The heck

Are any of those rules still in effect @Masterblack06 ?

are the rules in place

Brother, ive told you before to stop telling people to go make the threads in the verses section
Did you think i told you that for no reason?


we keep all our stupid arguments here in the stupid arguments thread.

I swear sometimes yall are goofy as shit

 

[Qinglong]

Current super goku vs Almighty Yewatch

If all you've got left is a weak appeal to ridicule, then you might as well stop responding. I'd have pointed out how he negged power removal and renaming as a black ant. Alongside negging an existance erasure technique. Those are his two best feats.

www.fanverse.org

I'm with OG

unironically WHAT is this man talking about anymore

 

[Qinglong]

I think so? His whole plan was to delete both worlds and start over because the Royal Knights stopped believing in him or something.

Data squad yggdrasil/king drasil was shown possessing his dad's body including threatening his partner with destroying his body forever was above the other RK and counting the games is also above Lucemon who was going to destroy both worlds and "Everything" in the Dark Area IIRC, just off of memory

Its avatar was defeated by Masaru but it essentially went to sleep