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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever
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Darth Zion
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So what about the people stated to be above them (and DK Touma, who can beat Alice)
Kingsford/CRC/Sprengel could all just replicate what MGs do but better through sheer magical skill
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Darth Zion
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Irrelevant. They are humans who can use universal magic, but they don't have the infinite stats of magic gods to survive.
Goes back in time, and retroactively erases Touma before he was even born. DK Touma is not above Alice, not when CRC combined with Fake Lucifer could have beaten him.
I mean, yeah? I know. They can just use magic to put themselves at that level or even above it.
It depends on how fast Klein is, given that all these characters can react to Flaming;Sword after it's fired.
I didn't say he was above Alice either, just that he could beat her.
- GT10, page 190
Anna Sprengel in GT10 was able to stop Alice's normal attacks and even her reality warping to some degree, at that (iirc). No reason why CRC couldn't do the same.
All of these characters are in the same general ballpark.
Actually, they do have a few fairly superhuman durability feats.
They survive a train crash that was fast enough to make said train explode, get tossed down a steel garbage shute and fall for like 40 feet without damage, get drugged multiple times with an airborne hallucinogenic and shrug it off in minutes, get flung around by creatures that can tear steel doors off their hinges, can briefly resist being dragged in or crushed by an enraged Doey, and survives falling dozens/hundreds of feet down a rock cavern and landing on their face.
They also apparently get stronger as the night goes on because in chapter 2 and 3 getting caught by one of the little guys was instant death, but in chapter 4 they can take a couple hits and in one case physically overpower one and fling it away. Granted that's mostly because chapter 4 started to forget it was survival horror instead of action horror, but still
Shinji vs Lisa and Hiyori
R1. Mask, Shikai, and Bankai restricted for Shinji. Vizard girls get canon showings only. R2. Shikai and Bankai restricted for Shinji. Bonus: Shinji vs Harribel (Shikai restricted.)
www.fanverse.org So BASE Shinji beats Harribel, but CAN'T beat Lisa and Hiyori who COULDN'T beat Harribel even WITH additional help from Hitsugaya shutting down her water attacks?
Jesus Christ these people are nonsensical when it comes to the "numbers advantage".
For the record, Shinji does win every round.
Kid Toshiro vs Bazz-B (Rematch)
Toshiro from the Gerard fight Vs Bazz-B. Bazz starts in VS. Toshiro starts in Bankai. Adult form restricted.
www.fanverse.org So Skalverei is apparently a FILLER/Artificial transformation that just exists in the anime to look cool and NEVER makes any difference.
Sure let's just casually ignore
- Quilge using it to neg Allon and actually be able to fight Fullbring Bankai Ichigo when he was BARELY stronger than Fullbring SHIKAI before
- Robert going from not being able to do shit vs Shikai Byakuya WITH HELP to actually FORCING him to use Bankai to defeat him 1v1.
- Uryu actually being able to fight a hesitant True Shikai Ichigo and almost killing him.
- Making Uryu vs Renji go from a difficult fight Renji could have won to Renji being two-shot fodder for Uryu.
Hell one of those instances was in the fucking MANGA!
Sables is just mad salty that the Bambies got shat on by Ichigo regardless.
Why do SB niggas like this sperg DragNoir keep harping all day about Toaru characters refusing to kill in most cases as an argument that they'll straight up throw away the fight or refuse to use their abilities when thats never once been the case.
You don't hear this level of autism against other characters who tend to avoid killing opponents when they can.
^ Yuisen aimed straight at the neck against an opponent Kanzaki was sure had nothing on them to defend against. WTF else do you call that other than a kill shot?
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Ah so we making more hydrogen bomb vs couching baby scenarios
Why the fuck are we making servants fight niggas that embody concepts and shit and throw hax like they are fucking PEZ. what are we doing
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They need to stop using fucking mephisto and dormammu and bring my boy back god damnitHe's a peak villain genuinely
bro WHAT
Pretty sure you can turn that argument on the Viltrumites as readily as you can the Saiyans, I'd imagine they aren't ALL Omni-Man level.
Also pretty sure even your average Saiyan is well beyond most Viltrumites so the point is moot regardless.
Lad's lost in the sauce thinking the Viltrumites can hang with the Saiyans.
Just wait until you see the replies, bro digs himself deeper saying that Season 1 Mark > NAPPA of all people
TS ichigo takes on captains who fought the elite
No HOS or bankai allowed for ichigo ( sorry this is was unclear , others are allowed bankai ichigo isn’t ) 1. Urahara 2. Mayuri 3. RG byakuya 4. Zaraki 5. Kyoraku How do these fights go ?
www.fanverse.org Yes the version of Ichigo who tore through Moustache's strongest defence like butter and generally made him look like a joke before he activated The Almighty.
Is struggling and/or losing against ANY of these.
Then again Worldstrongest is the same moron who insists Renji got NO STRONGER WHATSOEVER in the anime, insisting that he's still fodder to shikai Kenpachi and the like, despite blatant feats to the contrary.
I can't fucking WAIT to hear all the cope when we get to the throne room scene and it's, once again, made explicitly clear that Ichigo HAS INDEED been holding back massively against anybody who wasn't Moustache.
But nah, him holding back is just cope apparently.
