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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever


Man, you can tell these people keep thinking Noble Phantasms are just based on physics, is JUST metals(yep if they was, Nikola Tesla should be the strongest Heroic Spirit in existence) and Shirou will just get bodied due to electricity despite the shit he has gone through even in just Under The Snow.
But to say the man is barely versatile when we have seen Angelica Fairsworth vs. Shirou? Nah mate, get the fuck out of here. Absolute embarrassment of a thread.
 

Man, you can tell these people keep thinking Noble Phantasms are just based on physics, is JUST metals(yep if they was, Nikola Tesla should be the strongest Heroic Spirit in existence) and Shirou will just get bodied due to electricity despite the shit he has gone through even in just Under The Snow.
But to say the man is barely versatile when we have seen Angelica Fairsworth vs. Shirou? Nah mate, get the fuck out of here. Absolute embarrassment of a thread.
Oath Under Snow is basically EMIYA in stats without the drawback that HF Shirou suffers to reach it. OUS’s inevitable possible death is far more protracted and was reversible anyway, I think.

Surviving the chunk of Enuma Elish all the Sword Bullets from UBW couldn’t fully off set is one of the better durability feats in that tier tbh.
 
Oath Under Snow is basically EMIYA in stats without the drawback that HF Shirou suffers to reach it. OUS’s inevitable possible death is far more protracted and was reversible anyway, I think.

Surviving the chunk of Enuma Elish all the Sword Bullets from UBW couldn’t fully off set is one of the better durability feats in that tier tbh.

Which is why them acting like Misaka can just kill him and "It's all metal so she can fuck with it" just furthers shows any lack of thinking or intelligence in that thread.
They act like Angelica ain't shit or that her Enuma Elish isn't shit when it still absolutely is above anything Misaka can throw out and Shirou still took that offset and lived.
And yeah, Shirou was dying in a similar matter like in HF but it was completely reversible at the end.
 
Yeah no, dont see why Misaka isn’t putting the hurt on Shirou when a dying Kotomine beat him senseless

:hestonpls

Likewise, metal swords being supernatural doesn’t just make them immune to magnetism when they still have all the properties of metal

Especially when Misaka’s magnetism isn’t normal magnetism anyway
 
See I don't do this all the time with To Aru
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Yeah no, dont see why Misaka isn’t putting the hurt on Shirou when a dying Kotomine beat him senseless

So you just gonna play the typical game again where you just suddenly forget circumstances as per usual and just pretend Kotomine isn't some superstrong Executor and it's just "that easy"?
For the anime? Here, tanks numerous tendrils from Angra Mainyu, seemingly having thrown a tantrum at Shirou's suggestion he and Sakura save the living Rin together. Here, look at all that holding back Sakura's able to do. Here, the only arguable holding back Sakura does as she's the actual one doing the attacking. Here, scares the piss out of Angra Mainyu with the threat of projection and it attacks him with a trio of tendrils that do fuck all.

Mind you?

Here, Cu Chulainn employs the protection of all of his 18 Primal Runes to defend against Angra Mainyu/Sakura Matou's Shadow's tentacle attack, the defense doesn't even slow them down despite being able to defend against a great Noble Phantasm (I imagine that'd be A rank given his Gae Bolg is only "average")

Here, the anime's version didn't really go any differently.

Kotomine did that without having a functional heart for hours/a whole day while enduring those same strikes from Shirou? Yeah sure Astaro, Kotomine was just punching Shirou with a body made of swords...
Your Nasu knowledge is truly incredible.

Likewise, metal swords being supernatural doesn’t just make them immune to magnetism when they still have all the properties of metal
Yeah, they don't when they don't obey the natural laws of physics... or rather, how humans see physics which include all of the known laws...

Especially when Misaka’s magnetism isn’t normal magnetism anyway
Then it would matter even less to Noble Phantasms because Nikola Tesla's isn't normal either... you know? The guy that if the To Aru vs. Nasuverse threads wasn't banned, you would probably lose your shit over how badly he would tear her a new asshole? Real shit, she would probably get murdered by Frankstein or Thomas Edison for that same deal.
 
Hook. Line. Sinker.



So you just gonna play the typical game again where you just suddenly forget circumstances as per usual and just pretend Kotomine isn't some superstrong Executor and it's just "that easy"?
Nope because he’d have it rough just beating human level fighters with no actual abilities like Pre-enhancements Kihara Yuiitsu or Amata for that matter with his feats
Kotomine did that without having a functional heart for hours/a whole day while enduring those same strikes from Shirou? Yeah sure Astaro, Kotomine was just punching Shirou with a body made of swords...
Your Nasu knowledge is truly incredible.
Okay…
Yeah, they don't when they don't obey the natural laws of physics... or rather, how humans see physics which include all of the known laws...
That’s not proving anything

Your assuming breaking physics means it ignores properties of metal which is wishful thinking.
Then it would matter even less to Noble Phantasms because Nikola Tesla's isn't normal either... you know? The guy that if the To Aru vs. Nasuverse threads wasn't banned, you would probably lose your shit over how badly he would tear her a new asshole? Real shit, she would probably get murdered by Frankstein or Thomas Edison for that same deal.
Hey, I’ll give my word as a man to keep it civil no matter what if we allow it @Masterblack06

But until than, has Tesla ever actually used magnetism on NPs and it being stated magnetism doesn’t work?
 
Tesla uses magnetism as a regular part of his arsenal, flinging metal shit around for some of his attacks iirc.

His first major appearance involves fighting Mordred, who encases her entire body in metal armor. She wasn't affected even when he was using electromagnetism to, among other things, make the platforms they were standing on.

Also the swords Shirou makes are technically not real matter in the first place, and many of them aren't constructed from normal metals.
 
I outta reban it out of spite

Do It Episode 3 GIF by Star Wars
 
Yeah no, dont see why Misaka isn’t putting the hurt on Shirou when a dying Kotomine beat him senseless
Dying Kotomine is when he had his best feats (and by accolades his peak is able to defeat Casters and Assassins circa when the comment had been made in 2010 or so in addition to the statement suggesting it was a lack of skill, not physicality, that made him unable to down the knight classes), not my problem you want something flashy

You sound like the people that bitch about Star Wars where it can rake in at sub-building level or register upwards of some order of stellar :maybe

Nasuverse has the same deal and I'd hazard a guess ToAru's protagonist waffles fairly similarly :hm
 
Dying Kotomine is when he had his best feats (and by accolades his peak is able to defeat Casters and Assassins circa when the comment had been made in 2010 or so in addition to the statement suggesting it was a lack of skill, not physicality, that made him unable to down the knight classes), not my problem you want something flashy

You sound like the people that bitch about Star Wars where it can rake in at sub-building level or register upwards of some order of stellar :maybe

Nasuverse has the same deal and I'd hazard a guess ToAru's protagonist waffles fairly similarly :hm
It can. And by a stupid amount.

That Othinus vs Aradia thread I made a while back shows I don’t give it any breaks either if the feats just aren’t there for what the character is argued to scale too

In that case it was for Aradia
 
Anyway, not going to discuss this any further on my end.

I’ll think about making the thread later
 
It can. And by a stupid amount.

That Othinus vs Aradia thread I made a while back shows I don’t give it any breaks either if the feats just aren’t there for what the character is argued to scale too
And yet I don't believe your arbitrary skepticism extends nearly as far

Doing this for so long, looking over so many franchises, the bar to clear is well beneath the floor for most franchises as having several feats of a given magnitude is already too difficult to clear outside of something spanning decades. This has improved slightly the more modern a franchise is released, but even modern affair like JJK struggle to string together 3 worth discussing.
In that case it was for Aradia
Don't even know who Aradia is shrugs
 
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