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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Astaro said:
Kisame (and Naruto in general) is too old school these days.

The only people that actively debate it is the increasingly dwindling number of hardcore fans. And even then, most these dudes debate is Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, Kaguya, and whatever other Ootsutsuki introduced in Boruto.

And they have almost 0 presence on SB these days
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Im not wrong in thinking Kisame folds everyone there though right right?
 
Astaro said:
Typical StarCunt post

Same wanker that thinks Sukuna and Gojo are more hax than Coronzon and Accelerator respectably and will resort to endlessly moving the goal post and ignoring every feat that says otherwise to push that narrative

:maybe
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Hes also the guy that thinks DS characters are faster than Raiden, Sam, and Armstrong
:heston
 
Paxton said:
yeah no don't pull this bs when I know for a fact you didn't read part 8 (go do so, it won't take more than a couple of hours)

that never happened

the only thing I can recall is that the "flow" of calamity goes in a certain order and you can potentially survive the calamity depending on the context (jojo characters have wacky endurance, as you know)

nothing about straight up tanking the calamity. that's just retarded.
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yeah nobody ever actually bypasses it afaik
when Miss Nijimura "lands a hit" on WoU it's actually because her Stand allowed one of Gappy's nonexistence bubbles that he didn't even know he was using at the time to hit him. JoJowiki gets this misunderstood (or they did last I checked) because quite frankly it's extremely subtle and was something I definitely didn't pick up on my first read.

Nobody who sets out to actually kill him survives, Gappy notwithstanding because his attacks "don't exist" for the Calamity to do anything about.

Now, yeah NLF has to be taken into account but as I've said before WoU is basically impossible to debate because of how it's supposed to work. It's a horrible fit for this hobby, it is literally supposed to be weaponizing an abstract concept, but it does so in a way that's impossible to quantify in any usable way unlike Valentine.
 
OtherGalaxy said:
yeah nobody ever actually bypasses it afaik
when Miss Nijimura "lands a hit" on WoU it's actually because her Stand allowed one of Gappy's nonexistence bubbles that he didn't even know he was using at the time to hit him. JoJowiki gets this misunderstood (or they did last I checked) because quite frankly it's extremely subtle and was something I definitely didn't pick up on my first read.

Nobody who sets out to actually kill him survives, Gappy notwithstanding because his attacks "don't exist" for the Calamity to do anything about.

Now, yeah NLF has to be taken into account but as I've said before WoU is basically impossible to debate because of how it's supposed to work. It's a horrible fit for this hobby, it is literally supposed to be weaponizing an abstract concept, but it does so in a way that's impossible to quantify in any usable way unlike Valentine.
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Just be Novel Kars and Wonder of U is no big deal
:heston
 
Jojo in general just isn’t good for most Vs debates

The average fight once Stands are introduced play more like a strategy heavy puzzle of the good guys figuring out the enemies powers and a way to overcome them
 
Astaro said:
Jojo in general just isn’t good for most Vs debates

The average fight once Stands are introduced play more like a strategy heavy puzzle of the good guys figuring out the enemies powers and a way to overcome them
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theres only really a few stands/people you can really use in a debate and have it be enjoyable
 
OtherGalaxy said:
yeah nobody ever actually bypasses it afaik
when Miss Nijimura "lands a hit" on WoU it's actually because her Stand allowed one of Gappy's nonexistence bubbles that he didn't even know he was using at the time to hit him. JoJowiki gets this misunderstood (or they did last I checked) because quite frankly it's extremely subtle and was something I definitely didn't pick up on my first read.

Nobody who sets out to actually kill him survives, Gappy notwithstanding because his attacks "don't exist" for the Calamity to do anything about.

Now, yeah NLF has to be taken into account but as I've said before WoU is basically impossible to debate because of how it's supposed to work. It's a horrible fit for this hobby, it is literally supposed to be weaponizing an abstract concept, but it does so in a way that's impossible to quantify in any usable way unlike Valentine.
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Is the main problem with using WoU in versus debate mostly the way it was dealed with in-series?
You needed something that doesn't even exist to bypass it, and it's able to cause damage with more mundane things like making regular rain lethal and completely impossible things to happen?
I think there was a debate I saw whether Loop 100 Andy from Undead Unluck could touch/kill WoU. Andy has endured way more powerful bad luck/unluck/misfortune than anything WoU has shown. However WoU's calamities are much more abstract and bizarre compared to Fuuko's Unluck which usually just summons something more powerful.
 
Paxton said:
tries to hit it

the attack misses or Andy trips and hits himself

etc
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Procceds to keep firing the soul road anyway since Andy has an infinite amount, him tripping and falling means nothing, the entire area just gets blasted with a soul road
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Hell even better, Andy splits into his Bones, Blood, Body, and Skin, All 4 attack Wonder of U at the same time

what are you gonna say, the bloods gonna trip?
:heston
 
Masterblack06 said:
Hell even better, Andy splits into his Bones, Blood, Body, and Skin, All 4 attack Wonder of U at the same time

what are you gonna say, the bloods gonna trip?
:heston
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yes

it's gonna be a looney tunes ass situation

Tooru's going to stand there while this goofball Andy gets bombarded with anvils and shit.
 
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