More talking about the type of people who do street work rather than be cosmic heroes... which considering Cyclops and Jean Grey are seen as "street heroes" should tell you that shouldn't be used for powerlevels for Marvel/DC heroes.
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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever
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More talking about the type of people who do street work rather than be cosmic heroes... which considering Cyclops and Jean Grey are seen as "street heroes" should tell you that shouldn't be used for powerlevels for Marvel/DC heroes.
Remember that bullshit where he managed to KO a weakened Blackheart
Yeah, that was like Top 10 bullshit moments of Miles Morales just to try and make him the Superior Spider-Man... which just made people hate him more.
grillmaster
Exceptional
i figured it was something like that but i had to make a joke about roads
He's saying it based on the nature of how HF Shirou performed against a few Servants... the problem is that he ignores context on HOW HF Shirou got those wins:
He states that Shirou defeated Heracles... but if you read the VN(As the movie doesn't show the context of how absolutely fucked up Heracles was then), Heracles did not have:
- God Hand
- Hearing
- SightYes really)
- Cognition(Believed he was still fighting Saber Alter)
- Healthy(was still heavily injured)
Otherwise, we do see Shirou vs. Medusa in HF... if he tries to kill Sakura in her sleep, Medusa effortlessly kills him before he even registers she's there.
Again, not really sure why they have this battle as again, Shiki Ryougi is the worst nightmare for any character in Frieren.
Salfarc
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He was actually saying Emiya/Shirou is stronger than any greece warrior, and not only that, he also insist that Shirou can win vs Salter if he didn't fight Herc, and NP/UBW can negate Cybele
Not only that, he insist that Shirou can win vs Salter if he didn't fight Herc, and NP/UBW can negate Cybele
To be fair that did happen... Shirou just had to go brain dead to do it and it didn't really kill her, just took her down.
And I don't know how UBW can negate Cybele as that's her Mystic Eye... that's not how that works...
If you don't have enough Magical Energy(which Shirou sure as shit can't generate enough of), he's getting turned to stone.
EDIT: Shirou doesn't even HAVE Unlimited Blade Works in Heaven's Feel, is this supposed to be a composite?
Salfarc
Paramount
And he is saying Shirou can beat Artoria by himself and won't die if he didn't fight Herc first
And Shirou outperform Medusa who can't win vs Salter
Doesn't that mean he said Shirou can win vs Medusa?
No this guy is saying Shirou/Emiya are>>>Medusa He is using Shirou as a point to argue about Emiya. The argument is about Emiya, he use Shirou as a point because "Shirou can win vs Salter but Medusa cannot"
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No? That's not how that works for the reasons I stated above...
When has he outperformed Medusa in HF?
I mean that's still massively stupid and we have seen and got from Nasu how he would fare against Medusa(i.e. Actually BE an Archer and hope Rhoa Aias can save him from Belleophron)
Salfarc
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I am not saying you are wrong just saying what he said
According to him
Therefore his argument is
- If Shirou didn't fight Berserker he will have more projection
- Therefore in the bad ending if he didn't fight berserker he can win vs Saber Alter by himself
- Rider can't win vs Saber Alter by herself
- Therefore he outperform Rider vs Saber Alter
Yeah this got mentioned already. His response is this
His argument ignores so many context and he still not answering how Emiya can cancel Cybele
Salfarc
Paramount
Best to not link the thread but it was a Reddit topic about your favorite god
I put My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
*Get instantly hounded by atheists that think I’m indoctrinated and that I somehow can’t appreciate science or the universe at the same time.
I put My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
*Get instantly hounded by atheists that think I’m indoctrinated and that I somehow can’t appreciate science or the universe at the same time.
Atleast there's plenty of people stating that not much has changed despite what others want to say in there but it's still crazy people act like that the Tsukihime Remake buffs actually put them far ahead of the Fate side when that was never Nasu's intention(Again, these types tend to only watched the anime and read F/SN and not put much thought into the feats themselves).
All that actually happened is that Dead Apostle Ancestors are on the same plane of power the typical high/top tiers, aka, Nasu's very own statements saying that Servants = Dead Apostle Ancestors is still 100% on the money(Being stronger than a typical Divine Spirit doesn't mean much when there are Servants that can stomp them out with no issues like Siegfried, Sigurd, Gilgamesh, Karna, Arjuna, Artoria, etc. There's a reason why you can just slap in "Ibuki Douji, Tezcapolitica and Quetzalcoatl" and forget that they are such high ends for the typical Divine Spirit, it becomes laughable to even try and do it. Yes, it doesn't mean every Servant can do it, no shit, just means you can't try and put everyone under that umbrella)
Salfarc
Paramount
Yeah thought Tsukihime remake power boost is to keep up with Fate's powercreep if anything. Though I don't see much people saying TsukiRemake>Fate.
I however seeing Bleach>Fate still