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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever


At least you're not some Fate fan who instantly thinks they stomp everyone, but I have to ask: why do you think Hassan would accidentally run into Nagant while running away? You sure that's what you want to argue? Does he have some fate hax that lets shit like that happen that I'm unaware of?
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:miketime
This is Spacebattles, pretty sure he has to hide his actual thoughts to not get ostracized...
Also, yeah, Cursed Arm is the weak link... but the weak link in a team of Servants that would realistically crush everyone on the list without trying... is he truly a weak link or just meh due to that? Also yeah, he can unironically kill God Realm and/or anyone who uses explosions/shockwaves due to how his Wind Protection works.

I looked through the Shounen team again and because of the whole enough mana (or in this case a equivalent) can resist its affect, it doesn't take out nearly as many people out as you might think. I thought about her petrification, but I totally forgot its requirements making it so it takes a few characters out right away. I will get to who I think dies when the fight starts at the end of my comment.
how strong are those again? like building/city block level?
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Again, Salter was hooked to someone who was the equivalent of a walking Holy Grail and augmented to the point of a Grand Servant. Medusa was still able to basically cripple her for a moment before she overclocked her Mana Burst to get out of it.
Everyone in this team is nowhere near close to that level of energy... but this is Spacebattles again.

They consistently cut skyscrapers, buildings, bridges, and so on in half with a single dismantle even when while nerfed, they also damage characters who scale to or above the Yuji that survived getting punched through a skyscraper and got right back up still in fighting shape. That is something the servants can't handle if they're limited to FSN feats.
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Now that's an absolute lie if I have ever heard one...
My dude, most of the major feats seen in the anime alone dwarf most of the feats in JJK on site ALONE. Yuji isn't anywhere near Servant tier unless you stretch the ungodly fuck out of the shit he did and that doesn't change in the endgame of the series either. Again, why do people act like Yuji being horizontally punched through a Skyscraper or two is meant to be "omfg look how durable he is" with no other basis to it?

Shounen Team:
6 paths of Pain: Survives
Megumi Sukuna (JJK): Survives
Post rose meruem (HxH): Survives
Makima (CSM): Survives
Muzan (Demon Slayer): Dies from petrification (not like he would be much help anyway because the moment he realizes he might die, he runs away)
Lady Nagant (MHA): Dies from petrification
Crocodile (One Piece pre timeskip): Dies from petrification, Boa Hancock mere existence proves this.

FSN servants:
Artoria: High chance she dies from dismantle unless her instinct decides to kick in and save her and not fuck her over.
Medea: Dies from dismantle
Medusa: Dies from dismantle but not before killing at least three members of the other side
Cu: His POA probably saves him
Emiya: 50/50 since the dude does love to fight in CQC for whatever reason
Berserker: Loses 1 or 2 lives but survives
Assassin: Dies
Kojiro: Dies
Gilgamesh: 50/50 he can escape, but he's also a jobber, especially this version
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This is literal fucking fan-fiction level of theory baiting here...
Especially when you acts like that Artoria will die from a Dismantle when girl lived from Heracles being able to tear her damn near in half and his swings can fuck with space... but somehow, Nagato and the 6 Paths can survive a Medusa's Cybele based on nothing as can Makima not get fucked over by anyone else(again, what's stopping any Heroic Spirit from just eating her soul? love they act like people have to die for that to happen when that's been proven false many times).
 
Masterblack06 said:
Destroying nothing would give you more nothing, changing how nothing works still leaves you with nothing. The guys power comes from nothing
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Hey, my argument is mainly that Alice can just change how nothing and non-existence fundamentally works to take him out.
Basically, Alice is an extraordinary being who can build a bridge between reality and any proposed theory or concept, no matter how inaccurate or contradictory it might be. It could be the geocentric model, phlogiston, conspiracy theories about the moon landing being fake, that the Y2K problem would cause the world's computers to run wild and destroy the world, that neutrinos travel faster than light, or anything else.

The Anotherbible provides freedom on a level far behind even the framework of magic. It might be faster to just say there is effectively nothing she can't do."

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It didn't really matter what. It could be scientific or not and it could even violate the rules of magic. If the theory had been proposed at any time throughout history, Alice could build the bridge to make it real. Once a ridiculous theory began to operate, she could toy with it until it was hers.

It may have been less concerning if she had said she simply knew it to be true with no reason behind it. Because no matter how often someone's intuition was correct, it could always be wrong. But that excuse didn't exist here

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Was it even possible? Had it been definitively proven, or was it only a theory? Alice didn't care about that.

It could be the geocentric theory, phlogiston, an ancient nuclear war, or that dinosaur farts caused the ice age. Of course, it could also be something accurate like universal gravitation or quantum theory.

Accurate or not, if a theory had ever been proposed - if someone had thought it up and put together the logic behind it - she could build a bridge to it. She could choose whichever theories she wanted and link to them to wholly change the world. She was the ultimate conversion device. She could place Yamatai anywhere she liked, she could invent a perpetual motion machine of the first kind to produce unlimited energy, or she could remake the spherical Earth into a flat disk.
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Destroying nothing leaves you with nothing? Alice does not care about all that with Wonderland since she can make contradictory and illogical theories become reality.

Also, I asked him to prove that he can resist infinite power because I previously mentioned he couldn't beat anyone relevant even if he's functionally immortal to them because people from Magic Gods tier and up have passive fate and probability manipulation that scales to infinity ensuring they always win.

In my defense, both are valid arguments.
 
Darth Zion said:
Hey, my argument is mainly that Alice can just change how nothing and non-existence fundamentally works to take him out.

Destroying nothing leaves you with nothing? Alice does not care about all that with Wonderland since she can make contradictory and illogical theories become reality.

Also, I asked him to prove that he can resist infinite power because I previously mentioned he couldn't beat anyone relevant even if he's functionally immortal to them because people from Magic Gods tier and up have passive fate and probability manipulation that scales to infinity ensuring they always win.

In my defense, both are valid arguments.
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"The Anotherbible provides freedom on a level far behind even the framework of magic. It might be faster to just say there is effectively nothing she can't do"

To this day I don't know why this part was phrased as "behind the framework of magic" instead of "beyond the framework of magic"

Might just be a translation mishap.
 
Darth Zion said:
Hey, my argument is mainly that Alice can just change how nothing and non-existence fundamentally works to take him out.

Destroying nothing leaves you with nothing? Alice does not care about all that with Wonderland since she can make contradictory and illogical theories become reality.
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The thing is, what would she change it to and how would that kill him.

Just saying "ah i changed it now you lose" isnt a rebuttal, whatever you change it to, hes still tied to it to an extreme degree. If destroying the concept of it and making it not even exist at all didnt stop him, then just changing it to something else wouldnt do anything either.
Darth Zion said:
Also, I asked him to prove that he can resist infinite power because I previously mentioned he couldn't beat anyone relevant even if he's functionally immortal to them because people from Magic Gods tier and up have passive fate and probability manipulation that scales to infinity ensuring they always win.

In my defense, both are valid arguments.
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"Always winning" isnt a way to kill someone as "winning" can have multiple different forms. Again i never said he'd win, but fuck me, you guys are so hyperfocused on "killing" the guy that even with your pobability and infinity, you wouldn't win because your focusing on the worng shit.

Both arguments are bad cause yall are 1. not explaining and just saying things and 2. Focusing on only on aspect of the win. Stop being goobers and dragging a thread along because "NO I HAVE TO PROVE THAT HIS POWERS JUST CANNOT COMPARE"

Win the debate and move on
:heston
 
Masterblack06 said:



Bro
What the fuck am i reading

Destroying nothing would give you more nothing, changing how nothing works still leaves you with nothing. The guys power comes from nothing. Theres a reason they sealed the nigga

He may not be able to win the fight but fuck me dawg, they can't kill the nigga, just bring up some casual sealing feats and call it a day. Niggas debate to aru so fucking Ass on SB its unreal
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Yes, and the Misfit side arguing nothingness beyond the concept of nothingness and other hyperbolic malarkey isn’t any less dogshit

But it’s real simple.

"It may have been wrong to refer to that place as dark. In fact, the word “place” was not entirely accurate either. Non-existent things could not be explained. Nevertheless, a few voices lurked within where no one could interfere.
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This black world was the place not even Magic God Othinus had been able to destroy.

“Oh?”

“Someone” narrowed their eyes at the intense white light from outside.

That “someone” watched as the perpetrator set foot in that divine territory.

“I had noticed you had not shown yourself recently, but I see you were busy with a touching side job.”

The hoarse voice went on to speak a somehow nostalgic name.

“Aleister Crowley the Human.”

This magician had silver hair that reached his ankles and wore a green hospital gown. That human looked both male and female, both childlike and aged, and both saintly and sinful. His expression as he answered could have been interpreted as any number of emotions.

“Letting Othinus run free would have been a problem, but I left that to the strength of the world. The world was temporarily led to destruction as a result, but I still had to prioritize this. It wasn’t easy converting coordinates filled with non-existent numbers into decimal.”
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^ The Hidden Phase was also a non-existent void of nothingness. Crowley still nuked it anyway
 
Astaro said:
Yes, and the Misfit side arguing nothingness beyond the concept of nothingness and other hyperbolic malarkey isn’t any less dogshit

But it’s real simple.






^ The Hidden Phase was also a non-existent void of nothingness. Crowley still nuked it anyway
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Cool, nuking nothingness still leaves nothingness, thats the problem

Either way, Im pretty sure theres a ton of niggas in to aru with potent enough mental bullshit or bfr nonsense that killing him isnt even worth the effort and they can just shunt his ass somewhere else or turn off his brain or something.

Stop going for the hardest thing possible and instead prove the easily provable and win the debate. Stop making things harder on yourself and dragging the thread. it makes you look like your debating for attention. You have the out, take it and take the W
 
Like if i put kumagawa vs someone, im not gonna talk about some convoluted strategy he could employ to KO someone or something if the person has no resistance or their resistance isnt good enough to stop themselves from being yeeted and deleted

Imma say "He deletes this nigga because of example a,b,c" and then keep it pushing. GG EZ
 
OR EVEN BETTER

Remember when yall clowned on me because I said maybe Neo-Acacia could eat ORT and yall took like 1 or 2 posts to go "Yeah naw dawg. A,b,c means thats not happening" and thats it

:heston
 
Masterblack06 said:
Cool, nuking nothingness still leaves nothingness, thats the problem

Either way, Im pretty sure theres a ton of niggas in to aru with potent enough mental bullshit or bfr nonsense that killing him isnt even worth the effort and they can just shunt his ass somewhere else or turn off his brain or something.

Stop going for the hardest thing possible and instead prove the easily provable and win the debate. Stop making things harder on yourself and dragging the thread. it makes you look like your debating for attention. You have the out, take it and take the W
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You can’t destroy something that’s already nothing to begin with. Crowley did so anyway

Top tiers in Toaru thus have the feats to destroy whatever esoteric crap about Anus being nothingness
 
Astaro said:
You can’t destroy something that’s already nothing to begin with. Crowley did so anyway

Top tiers in Toaru thus have the feats to destroy whatever esoteric crap about Anus being nothingness
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Astaro
I shouldnt have to explain to you that destroying nothing or non-existence still leaves you with nothing dawg

0-0 is still fucking 0
I know he doesnt win but hot damn son, take him out some other way instead of "nuke it harder" its not working in this scenario. your doing the exact thing I just mentioned. arguing just to argue
 
Masterblack06 said:
Astaro
I shouldnt have to explain to you that destroying nothing or non-existence still leaves you with nothing dawg

0-0 is still fucking 0
I know he doesnt win but hot damn son, take him out some other way instead of "nuke it harder" its not working in this scenario. your doing the exact thing I just mentioned. arguing just to argue
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And I shouldn’t need to tell you why Anos contradicts being non-existent when he clearly has a physical prescence going by that logic

Thus, both arguments get cancelled out anyway
 
This isn’t even about Toaru winning or not. I’m just pointing out how moronic Misfit arguments are since they argue the most hyperbolic crap in that thread
 
Astaro said:
And I shouldn’t need to tell you why Anos contradicts being non-existent when he clearly has a physical prescence going by that logic

Thus, both arguments get cancelled out anyway
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:catwut:

your so lost in the sauce you dont even know whos in the thread. Stop trying to argue for nothing, its attention seeking behavior
 
I don't think Anos is the one with the "nothingness" powers. Dude explicitly can be killed by just killing his "source" which is just his soul with extra steps. He does come back from having it done once but that explicitly took prep on his part.

And the dude actually in question draws power from "nothingness". So if you destroy nothingness......it still leaves nothing and thus he just draws power from said (new) nothingness.

But like a reality warper should also be able to just.....fill the nothingness with shit? Couldn't Alice Stupidname just shove a bunch of phases or whatever into the void this dude is pulling power from and make it not nothing anymore?
 
CrossTheHorizon said:
I don't think Anos is the one with the "nothingness" powers. Dude explicitly can be killed by just killing his "source" which is just his soul with extra steps. He does come back from having it done once but that explicitly took prep on his part.

And the dude actually in question draws power from "nothingness". So if you destroy nothingness......it still leaves nothing and thus he just draws power from said (new) nothingness.

But like a reality warper should also be able to just.....fill the nothingness with shit? Couldn't Alice Stupidname just shove a bunch of phases or whatever into the void this dude is pulling power from and make it not nothing anymore?
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i think the nothingness isnt a specific place based on what im reading and instead its just the nothingness that exists everywhere.

either way if it was that simple the to aru side would ignore it and focus on some weird ass convoluted way to use their weird probability manipulation and infinity to try and win

cause they wouldnt see an easy win if it ripped their face off
 
also shit like this made me realize how much i miss straightforward systems/ powers in fiction

Yogiri is so god damn simple to debate its unreal. I want more of that. Where the protag just wears his power on his sleeve and its simple, easy to demonstrate, and no flowery language or hyperbole is needed too much
 
Alright, I looked at the stupid fucking thread and in hate all of you and existence itself for bringing it into my awareness

Anyway Maou Gakuin apparently actually is (very low) multiversal because they actually showed the universe being destroyed and also there's a higher dimension that can hold 100+ normal universes

Which doesn't really matter because fuck Maou Gakuin in any non-anime format, at least that shit makes it funny

What does matter is that discussing this character lead to the creation of this sentence

When it's destroyed, he can survive with his nonexistent source (Source of Nothingness) that doesn't exist.
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As such we are done discussing this character, he loses to fucking Charlie Brown for all I care :zaru
 
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