serious question im pretty familiar with vsb’s system but why do dimensional tier guys say “infinitely 5d” what the hell does that even mean. Isn’t 5D just the tier of its own
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Optimus Prime 654
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It just means how you are infinitely stronger than a 5D structure. That is the whole definition of "infinite 5D"
wouldn’t that just be 6d
Optimus Prime 654
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nah, if you ascend beyond the 5D structure, then you get 6D
how can you be infinitely stronger than something without transcending it
whats the difference in this context
Not an embarassing argument but just something interesting enough for me to put my two cents on
Going to assume we’re ignoring how both Limitless and One Way Road are hereditary powers for the sake of the topic
For Accelerator, do we equalized Cursed Energy with Mana? If so, a flat no as I doubt even learning Reverse Cursed Technique, which is just performing more magic, would alleviate Accelerator destroying his own body every time he performed magic
If Cursed Energy doesn’t count as magic since Mana / life energy technically isn’t involved, then sure, Accelerator can use Limitless even without Six Eyes given Espers are already precise enough to use their powers on a quantum scale.
So with Six Eyes and Magic backlash on Espers both out of the equation and knowing the kind of esoteric reality bending magic he’s been able to tap into, Accelerator can easily apply that same skills to learn the Reverse Cursed Energy + Six Eyes combo Gojo uses for an always passively on Limitless himself. And if he gets Six Eyes too, all the better.
Conversely and assuming all the above applies, Gojo has the chops to become a powerful Esper, especially with Six Eyes to compliment the precision needed to use Esper powers even giving him a natural edge over most.
Just comes down to how well he’s studied math and physics and can perform a bunch of nerd math in his head during combat
If he can still use Reversed Curse Energy, he’s Accelerator with a potent healing factor on top of that.
Darth Zion
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There's no difference- that's not how dimensions work, lol.
Optimus Prime 654
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For infinite 5D, that just makes you infinitely above the baseline, but I'm not sure it would be equal to destroying a infinite-sized 5D realm. 6D is an obvious since you are transcending to another dimension right after 5D. That is what Dimensional tiering works, pretty much functions like a chain effect
what's the difference between your first example and the second, what makes the latter transcendent and not the former?
Darth Zion
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You do realize that dimensions are technically just directions right?
Optimus Prime 654
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VSB wanting to find a way to be more strict with cardinality was a good thing for their system but I don't think they managed to implement it cohesively
Darth Zion
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You're good man, np...
I just wanted to say that dimensions being realms or higher dimensional beings transcending lower ones happens only in fiction, not irl. There's no reason behind it, it's just happens.
Yeah but most writers don't
Dimensional scaling comes from the decision for early sci-fi to define "other plane of existence" as a different dimension, which snowballed into the idea that then "4-d" must be a higher plane of existence from which all of 3-d space can be freely controlled. And then just go up from there with 5-d and so on
Meanwhile back in reality everyone reading this is a fourth dimensional being....because the fourth dimension is time and there was point before you read this and one after you read it. If you experience both you are inherently fourth dimensional
Dimension scaling is uniquely whack among all forms of power scaling just because of how much BS is piled up in the definition alone
100% gojos brain burns out trying to calculate the shit Accel does even at the start of the series. His RCT aint keeping up, my mans turning into a vegetable day 1
Not an embarassing argument but just something interesting enough for me to put my two cents on
Going to assume we’re ignoring how both Limitless and One Way Road are hereditary powers for the sake of the topic
For Accelerator, do we equalized Cursed Energy with Mana? If so, a flat no as I doubt even learning Reverse Cursed Technique, which is just performing more magic, would alleviate Accelerator destroying his own body every time he performed magic
If Cursed Energy doesn’t count as magic since Mana / life energy technically isn’t involved, then sure, Accelerator can use Limitless even without Six Eyes given Espers are already precise enough to use their powers on a quantum scale.
So with Six Eyes and Magic backlash on Espers both out of the equation and knowing the kind of esoteric reality bending magic he’s been able to tap into, Accelerator can easily apply that same skills to learn the Reverse Cursed Energy + Six Eyes combo Gojo uses for an always passively on Limitless himself. And if he gets Six Eyes too, all the better.
Conversely and assuming all the above applies, Gojo has the chops to become a powerful Esper, especially with Six Eyes to compliment the precision needed to use Esper powers even giving him a natural edge over most.
Just comes down to how well he’s studied math and physics and can perform a bunch of nerd math in his head during combat
If he can still use Reversed Curse Energy, he’s Accelerator with a potent healing factor on top of that.
Both have the processing abilities to manipulate their powers down to the atomic level100% gojos brain burns out trying to calculate the shit Accel does even at the start of the series. His RCT aint keeping up, my mans turning into a vegetable day 1
Gojo lacks Accelerator’s upward limits of his powers but passive Vector reflection needing only the subconscious mind at work and basic applications to be a Level 5, Gojo can pull off