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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

I've seen Gudao haters and downplay him and I hate them.

I never thought I'd ever meet a Gudao glazer!

Benxenofan said:
Ok Ritsuka is anything but a normal human his time in grand order has actually made him a monster to the point he's in the top 10 strongest Nasu protags and don't tell me and ordinary human can OUTRUN HERACLES
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Yes, Gudao is not a normal human during the course of F/GO. No, Gudao was still within normal human capacity during Okeanos and he didn't outrun Heracles by his own ability !

Herc got hold back by other Servants. Artemis, Atlanta, Mash!

Benxenofan said:
and Heracles bulldozed past those servants like nothing Eurayale asked Ritsuka can he run faster cause Heracles was catching up. Ritsuka is not normal it's been agreed he's actually a freak of nature
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But he still got hold back by them and he still manage to catch up with Gudao who have a headstart in getting to the David's Ark!

Ritsuka is non-human in his mentality and soul, not his physical ability!

Benxenofan said:
and Herc was straight up immune to all their attacks since god hand negates all attacks below A rank literally Herc ignored the attacks servant distraction amounted to nothing cause they couldn't even hurt him
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Atlanta's attack can reaches A rank!

And Mash doesn't need to attack him, she just need to stand in his way!
 
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Masterblack06 said:
It’s times like these that super powers should exist. Regeneration would be dope
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I’m the type to overthink this shit

Like, would I age faster by having rapid regeneration? The cells can only divide so many times before the telomeres start going all screwy and shit IIRC :hm

Still safer than teleportation would be anyway, fuck that shit entirely. The math involved would be miserable alone.
 
shiny said:
Human Team

  • Archer (Fate Stay/Night)
  • Megumi Sukuna (JJK)
  • Lina Inverse (Slayers)
  • Roswaal (Re:Zero)

None Human Team

  • TaiSai (Dark Gathering)
  • Macht (Frieren)
  • Tyki Mikk (D Gray Man)
  • Makima (Chainsaw Man)

  • In character
  • Anime manga and LN feats
  • No knowledge
  • 100m distance
  • Win by any means
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Masterblack06 said:
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Like unless you get really deep in there with D.Gray Man and potentially Dark Gathering, there is nothing the Non-Human Cast can do against the Human Cast. Makima and Macht especially are overrated as fuck.


Transmuting someone into a pig is an A rank spell in fate. Emiya has D rank MR, so its doubtful he'd deal. Additionally Macht can transmutate an entire city rapidly, which is ludicrous potency.
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r_s continuing to show he doesn't understand anything of what he means...
EMIYA is able to still move despite being in Medea's Temple and having Space around him completely freeze around him which is the equivalent of basically being in a Debug Room and still being able to fight against someone in there.
Also, Servants and even Mages do have defenses against Transmutation, it's why Theia being able to do what he did is so damn impressive.

Megumi's potential resistance is only against soul related stuff.
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Pretty sure it sorta doesn't with how the Cursed System is primarily meant to be(though again, alot of it is unexplored because Gege never gave a shit about it)

Don't recall Lina interacting with it, and I don't know Roswaal.
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100% Certain Lina has dealt with transmutation and so has Roswaal to some degree.
 

Continuation:

What curses
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Easiest Curse isn't even from Medea, it's Medusa's Bloodfort Andromeda... but we will discuss that in a bit.

The only Andromeda Emiya interacted with didn't instantly kill mundane Japanese highschoolers.

When does this happen?
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Uh? The entire confrontation with Shinji, Shirou and Rin in the school? There's a reason why Bloodfort Andromeda is dangerous even in Medusa's weakened to shit state:

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Blood Fort Andromeda

Blood Fort Andromeda: Other-Seal, Blood Temple (他者封印・鮮血神殿(ブラッドフォート・アンドロメダ), Tasha Fūin - Senketsu Shinden(Buraddo Fōto Andoromeda)?) is the Temple of Blood that surrounded the Shapeless Isle which was the home of Medusa and her sisters, turning it into a palace of darkness, dyed crimson from...
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By magnification of the Mystic Eyes' projection, a fixed conceptual field is substituted into "the inside of her eyes", and the life force of those inside it is plundered. An absorption power that literally "dissolves the body" of ordinary persons without any Magic Resistance. Even Heroic Spirits will have their life force plundered as long as they are inside the barrier.[2] Medusa is able to implement it as a Bounded Field of blood that she uses to primarily absorb Magical Energy by dissolving any caught live humans and reducing them into red blood and organic ooze.[3]
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The only reason why nobody died in there was due to Medusa's shitty ass condition but considering everyone was instantly unconsciousness and even Taiga, a Olympic level Swordswoman, can barely keep conscious meanwhile the 1 and a half Mages(Shirou and Rin) was able to not only stay conscious but still fight despite being in it speaks volumes).
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
100% Certain Lina has dealt with transmutation
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I don’t recall her resisting it

Lina barely has any hax, she’s mostly raw power

Lina and the others would have been screwed had they turned into dolls from that haunted doll Mazoku. Xellos has shown resistance to that stuff
 
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AcidSoup said:
Maybe maybe not
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As a serious thing I think it's rather even if you take both verses at their highest. Warhammer has a surprising amount of crazy things lying around for the gods and top stuff with AOS only adding more crack snort lore. Even the more middle ground stuff if I can believe Paxton are relative in an overall sense. Only issue is if you start reaching multiversal reality warpers with infinite statements that have no showing of the two it becomes incoherent nonsense that devolves to who is a bigger fan of what
 
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