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Does anyone know how strong is Hank?
As Giant Man he’s listed as a class 100 heavy hitter maybe not in the same level as Thor or Hulk but he is compared with them on the overarching strength benchmark.
Palmer when shrinking down to a certain size can attain enough compressed mass equal to white dwarf stars
 
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So discord vs bill, and mercer vs cole is confirmed.

i believe bill was a bit higher on the scale then discord? since he killed time baby and had some universal feats contrast to discord moving the celestial bodies like nothing

Also from what ive seen, mercer has only his nuke surivial tank feat while cole defeated the beast and have more exotic powers then mercer.
 
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Guess we can all count on Rick vs the Doctor not happening anymore :dank
Maybe, it depends on what they’re rules for handling characters from objectively horrible people are. I don’t think we can expect any Hp characters anytime soon, or RWBY characters given that they want to put some distance from the RT dumpster fire, but they have brought in Danny Phantom and even did a joint podcast Hartman and they did say they’re interested in bringing in Cthulhu and Kenshin so you never know :catalian
 
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Maybe, it depends on what they’re rules for handling characters from objectively horrible people. I don’t think we can expect any Hp characters anytime soon, or RWBY characters given that they want to put some distance from the RT dumpster fire, but they have brought in Danny Phantom and even did a joint podcast Hartman and they did say they’re interested in bringing in Cthulhu and Kenshin so you never know :catalian
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god this is so bad
tl;dr some main things
-nova using the darkness to zap Optimus isn’t universal because he explicitly needs nega-cores placed in that same arc to allow the dead universe to destroy the main one. When he says the darkness is limitless he’s talking about how the matrix limited him ethically, and the darkness doesn’t. The context of the page and chapter make it very clear.
-megatron fought part of D’Void, the rest was still in the Dead Universe where Optimus killed it with the matrix. It’s an impressive mindfuck resist feat since D had taken over thousands of decepticons and couldnt get Megatron though, but it is NOT universal
-Galvatron is stronger than Megatron and tore him in half in Dark Cybertron, so Megatron catching Devastator’s punch means little when he lost to Galvatron, the Galvatron “””scaling””” is also terrible and inaccurate because they claim the Nexus Prime he killed is the actual god Nexus Prime, when it wasn’t. It was almost guaranteed to be a post-shroud non singularity Nexus Prime. Any true 13 member solos IDW Transformers effortlessly, especially the Nexus that did the shroud feat. Even if it was the real deal it would only be an avatar, like how Vector Prime’s are around galaxy to universe+ but true form Vector Prime is way stronger. The 13 are drastically different in each universe their avatars exist in, by this guy’s logic Bayformers Fallen, Optimus etc are all universal at minimum
-The entropy storm fucks with time, and ore-13 resonates with it, but this isn’t really the same thing at all as giving people amped on it universal strength. IDW Unicron also has all of the ores and was only a galaxy level threat, not universal
-Megatron and Optimus nearly die numerous times to planet level weapons after dark cybertron when their supposedly universal feats happen, they are both also explicitly weaker than Phase Sixers, who wipe out life in planets

most importantly any idea that D Void was a threat to every universe is both hyperbole and nonsense. Nova Prime historically does not know what the fuck he is talking about, like it’s an actual character trait he has, he tells people what to do and makes them figure it out. We also know from dark cybertron that the dead universe is just a regular universe Shockwave siphoned all the life from, and AVP establishes it as a pocket universe (though transformers legends game also says it’s a mirror of the main one). It isn’t multiversal and does not have any feats to suggest such.

Megatron’s anti matter is planetary but it would kill him in the process


that guy wasted all that time writing that when he could have just read the Gen Selects manga, where Megatron has several universe++++ and multiversal feats

IDW is like continent level maybe with planet level suicide attacks
 
and not that it matters but he brings up the infinite universes thing and since ive done a fuckton of work to document this I want to note that even in the 90s a single universe was said to have infinite futures and we have multiple other sources that back it up, that there are endless branch timelines for each universe, that every possible version of the universe exists etc

i actually even found out recently that even “neverweres”, nonexistent possibilities and realities are “real” and that Heinrad has travelled to some of them
 
Ballot Banter #6
Eren vs Ken- They think it’s wild that they haven’t used Eren yet, talked about a power ranger for him but are open.
Nora vs Kyoko- Fun matchup.
Iroh vs Oogway- The best one they’ve seen so far, they love the characters but one of them dying sounds awful. They want to do Kung Fu Panda again. Satsuki vs Henry- Satsuki is cool, barely knew Henry. Unrelated but they like Monster. Banjo and
Kazzoie vs Yoshi and Baby Mario- a banger, more a 2 v 1 than anything
. Luz vs Akko- They got the matchup, Sam might watch Owl House.
Eddie Riggs vs Gitaroo Man- They know Eddie… don’t know Gitaroo.
Finn and Jake vs Mordocai and Rigby- They already spoke on it, love it and both series to death. Everyone loves the matchup. “Basically a matter of time”. Onaga vs Conquest- an interesting combo that makes kinda sense, Conquest is cool.
Kratos vs Asura- already spoke about it, would love to do it. Liam’s preferred Kratos option.
Travis vs Scott- The thumbnail looked cool, made fun of both for being dicks. Called it a “classic”, referred to it in 2010 terms, etc. Kitana vs Kasumi- Fine. Dom vs Lightning- dunno how you’d do it, but it’s perfect. Talked about Dom vs Kiryu, kinda like it.
Madoka vs Moon- already talked about it. Interested in Madoka.
Travis vs Scott again- Literally just talked about it. Liam was about to say someone he preferred for Scott but got cut off.
Slayer vs Chief- “oh hell yeah” basically eventually gonna happen.
Hakuman vs Archer- don’t want to do the series just so the researchers don’t hate them.
Giorno vs Joker- They’ve talked about it, want more Jojo. Very debatable. Sounds better as a DBX. Liam said it’s debatable
Matoko vs Keinchi- literally who. Cole vs Alex- don’t need to talk.
Trevor vs Payday Guy- talked about if Payday is versus viable. It is.
Chucky vs Springtrap- asked if Springtrap being suggested is a meme or not. “Sure”.
R2D2 vs Claptrap- Talked about doing it before, they know the Claptrap official VA.


But basically the most major stuff is Slayer vs Chief and Finn and Jake vs Mordocai and Rigby Basically absolutely gonna happen
 
Slayer vs Chief is going to be the largest stomp in Death Battle I think. Multiversal+ vs small building level. I would have preferred Chief vs Shephard.
 
I've seen a lot of Multiverse+ Doomslayer statements around but haven't played the latest game, does he nuke all of Hell or something?
 
I've seen a lot of Multiverse+ Doomslayer statements around but haven't played the latest game, does he nuke all of Hell or something?
The Lord of Hell created Hell, can fuck around and warp hell, and outright stated he can destroy it in an instant if he wants.

Not only does Doomslayer kick his ass, but Doomslayer is basically a clone of him and they look the same and is himself currently the Lord of Hell.

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The main guy behind Doom Eternal, Hugo Martin, confirmed that Doomslayer grows more powerful over the course of combat and that the strength of his weapons are drawn from his rage and overall power. So him having multiversal guns aren't too inconsistent, they aren't bound by the power of physics but the power of his obsidian will.
 
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