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Death Battle Discussion

I'm cheering for Galactus :wow
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depends on the research tbh
if they drop the ball like they did here then yeah
but the deeper you go the weirder the Unicron rabbit hole gets

that said there isnt a single place online i’ve seen with all the Unicron info I compiled here so chances of them being aware of how far it goes are probably bad lol

the only real solid way Marvel is>TF is if you go full on dimensional tiering route and even then you can still make a case for TF

in terms of greater infinities of universes and all that nonsense TF has that in spades and then you factor in the Tree of Life shit and it’s just ridiculous

if you’re just going by dimensions then Marvel probably wins since TF’s “countless dimension” statements are weird as hell and debatable but if you go from any other angle, at the very least it’s not one-sided

also they love multipliers, and Galaxy Force makes those absolutely ridiculous too for Unicron/Primus
Out of curiosity how often does Unicron get treated like an abstract? Or if he has never been treated that way has he interacted with the transformers equivalent of abstracts?

There's been some weird shit with Galactus where if he dies the marvel verse goes with him or when he absorbed magic power it made EVERYTHING go fucky.

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Along with him being a "sibling" with Death. And other stuff like that.

So I feel like there are inherent qualities to an abstract that could play a factor in the fight.
 
Out of curiosity how often does Unicron get treated like an abstract? Or if he has never been treated that way has he interacted with the transformers equivalent of abstracts?
this is rarely mentioned but Unicron genocided his entire species of abstracts before the TF setting as we know it was birthed (by Primus, who was split from Unicron after this). There are only two known survivors of this and it’s never been explained how they survived. Unicron sandbags a lot because in their first fight, after decisively losing, Primus tricks Unicron into being trapped in a physical form and losing his old body. This is where robot Unicron comes from. Also the Transformers were actually made in his image, which is like if God made us in Satan’s instead of his own, so that’s weird.

Despite this the Vok (omnipresent) still prophesied Unicron would destroy every single parallel reality and plane of existence eventually, which would at least include Infraspace which is a conceptual realm between life and death.
There's been some weird shit with Galactus where if he dies the marvel verse goes with him or when he absorbed magic power it made EVERYTHING go fucky.
Vector Prime once claimed the multiverse would survive without Primus and Unicron but this seems to have largely been disproven…by himself, as Primus’ bodies are axis that stabilize the universes, and even destroying one of them has caused damage that rippled into the wider omniverse before.
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Along with him being a "sibling" with Death. And other stuff like that.

So I feel like there are inherent qualities to an abstract that could play a factor in the fight.
Could be, I do try to read up on Marvel scaling periodically, but no clue how db will treat it, and I’m not a real expert. Unicron’s biggest boon is ridiculous survivability, death as a whole doesnt really apply to him and he considers it a poor imitation of himself, though I don’t necessarily think this alone is outside of Marvel’s domain of course.


This is debatable, but there’s also a proposal for the Cybertron comic that never happened where the black hole he collapsed into was said to have destabilized the omniverse (along with the Vok in canon saying his agents were a virus on the omniverse)

reason I bring this up is because there’s also a statement that unproduced stories can still be canon so….


TF lore is fun :wow
 
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Ya thoughts on the next time

If you want my honest opinion, it's just Overrated vs. Overrated.
People are clowning on Gojo hard and Infinity is wanked to oblivion but in this case, it actually is an issue for Makima no matter how hard others say it is.
The big issue is trying to bypass her contract with the Japanese people and thus, we don't know if that will be included or not. She's also not a weakling considering she beat a weakened Chainsaw Denji's ass very easily and can use other Devil Abilities from their contracts too.

So it depends if Gojo can keep Unlimited Void active on her, if Unlimited Void is taken at it's word rather than given the realistic context it has(i.e. It wouldn't impede a human anywhere near as hard as people say it is because we ultimately would just ignore most of that info subconsciously... the human brain is a wonderful thing) and even then are they going to wank Purple or ultimately go with what it truly is as well.
 
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