No. Goku breaking through Hit's timeskip by forcing himself into the future was directly used as evidence for him being immeasurable, without even using Heroes itself. DBS speeds just got an absurd buff.
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Warlordgab
Illustrious
@OtherGalaxy it's finally happening!! GALACRON is the season finale!!!
No. Goku breaking through Hit's timeskip by forcing himself into the future was directly used as evidence for him being immeasurable, without even using Heroes itself. DBS speeds just got an absurd buff.
On the upside this buffs Hit if Hit vs Sakuya ever happens since Hit right after improves his Timeskip to still freeze goku in time regardlessNo. Goku breaking through Hit's timeskip by forcing himself into the future was directly used as evidence for him being immeasurable, without even using Heroes itself. DBS speeds just got an absurd buff.
OrlandoSky
Paramount
Also him dodging attacks from Infinite Zamasu since "fighting someone omnipresent would technically make his speed limitless"No. Goku breaking through Hit's timeskip by forcing himself into the future was directly used as evidence for him being immeasurable, without even using Heroes itself. DBS speeds just got an absurd buff.
Warlordgab
Illustrious
Super buffs finna be hitting
ITS HAPPENING?!
Here's Dan Khanna (prominent transformers artist)'s old Galactus vs Unicron piece, one of the most iconic
Well the fight made up for the Dogshit sequel that was Goku vs Superman 2 @Derpmaster9000
Warlordgab
Illustrious
plugging this again because it's the most complete transformers breakdown online at the moment and I worked hard on it
onelastforum.com
I may need to go in and fix the quotes since they still don't fully open for me, prob gotta replace with spoiler tags
everything in there Unicron scales to and then some. If they go full dimensional tiering, I can see Galactus winning but they are more lenient with statements and there are still a couple that support 'countless higher dimensions' in TF, and Unicron scales way way beyond that if accepted.
If they go with something else then, idk. The Kabbalah shit makes True Unicron's scaling absolutely bullshit levels.
Transformers feats/discussion
Transformers is a long running toy robot franchise that's been around for nearly 40 years at this point. As a result of its length and action focus, it's got a tremendous amount of lore and feats to catalogue. The purpose of this thread is for any and all discussion of Transformers, but...
onelastforum.com I may need to go in and fix the quotes since they still don't fully open for me, prob gotta replace with spoiler tags
everything in there Unicron scales to and then some. If they go full dimensional tiering, I can see Galactus winning but they are more lenient with statements and there are still a couple that support 'countless higher dimensions' in TF, and Unicron scales way way beyond that if accepted.
If they go with something else then, idk. The Kabbalah shit makes True Unicron's scaling absolutely bullshit levels.
OrlandoSky
Paramount
I feel like they slipped up, it was a missed opportunity for them not to foreshadow it in the Silver Surfer ep earlier this year
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It did. even if, again, I'd have preferred if they held off on this until the final season. What I'm more interested in, as should plenty of people be, is the buffs that Super got, because of this episode. Holy shit, they just put the verse, especially its speed for post Uni 6 vs 7 Goku-tier characters, on absolute steroids. I did NOT see that coming.
OrlandoSky
Paramount
I think Big G's best wincon remains the Ultimate Nullifier. I know In-Universe he is terrified of it getting used, but it's still Standard Equipment regardless and I can see there being a "desperate times call for desperate measures" moment in the fight where he pulls it out right as Unicron is about to strike what would be the final blow.plugging this again because it's the most complete transformers breakdown online at the moment and I worked hard on it
Transformers feats/discussion
Transformers is a long running toy robot franchise that's been around for nearly 40 years at this point. As a result of its length and action focus, it's got a tremendous amount of lore and feats to catalogue. The purpose of this thread is for any and all discussion of Transformers, but...
I may need to go in and fix the quotes since they still don't fully open for me, prob gotta replace with spoiler tags
everything in there Unicron scales to and then some. If they go full dimensional tiering, I can see Galactus winning but they are more lenient with statements and there are still a couple that support 'countless higher dimensions' in TF, and Unicron scales way way beyond that if accepted.
If they go with something else then, idk. The Kabbalah shit makes True Unicron's scaling absolutely bullshit levels.
So I think at a certain point more than Galactus's own power it depends on where they put the UN. And it can be put pretty fucking high given Reed once used it to destroy Multi-Eternity making reality go through a rebirth as a result
Unicron is really weird and most of his feats (other than one) are actually him surviving things for no real reason. For example, if DB does put them at a similar scale, I could see him surviving the UN solely because he literally lives in a void outside all realities that wipes you from existence, and while Unspace is the exact opposite of consistently written, the lore reason for one character surviving there while the other didn't is explicitly because he had a small portion of Primus' power (which is actually the same kind of energy as Unicron's)
It's debatable and super weird to get into but there are a couple of pretty reliable in universe statements and feats regarding Unicron being a threat to the omniverse and not just the multiverse, but they aren't as straightforward as Marvel's cosmic fights are. Transformers tiering is a ton of red string conspiracy theory type shit wherein you can definitively place characters but it takes a lot of legwork.