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Claudio Swiss

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xenos5

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Ballot Banter #38 Recap

Sailor Moon VS Cardcaptor Sakura- They aren’t super familiar with Cardcaptor Sakura. John and Liam know that it’s a classic magical girl series like Sailor Moon, and think it works and makes sense.

King K. Rool VS Gruntilda (Donkey Kong VS Banjo-Kazooie)- They all love it, to the point where Sam says they should have put it on the Tournament of Champions. Sam also says he feels like it’ll be on the Cast soon.

Spawn VS Demi-Fiend (Image VS Shin Megami Tensei)- Liam says it’s perfect. Sam says that most SMT MUs use Persona characters instead of the main series. John thinks it’s a good MU. Liam wants to use an SMT character a lot and thinks it’d be a fun series to cover.

Professor Layton VS Tintin- “Today’s flush with bangers”, according to Sam. Liam has been a big Tintin fan since he was a kid. Liam asks how the battle would work (he thinks that Tintin would stomp in a regular fight), and Sam responds it would be a battle of wits rather than a standard fight. He thinks that a battle of wits like this needs some mechanic to give it life-or-death stakes, and proposes the setup involves Layton and Tintin needing to escape a Saw-like death trap (Liam thinks Layton wins if that’s the setup).

Annie VS Linne (Skullgirls VS Under Night In-Birth)- They don’t know the characters at all, but Sam says they seem similar enough based on the connections.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles VS Ninjago- Liam found the Michelangelo VS Jay debate from the Cast really fun. Sam says the characters have a lot of energy and it would be fun. He says they’ve discussed TMNT VS Ninjago a lot, and it’s on the “one day list”.

Juri Han VS Ryuji Yamazaki (Street Fighter VS Fatal Fury)- Liam isn’t a big KOF fan, but finds the characters really appealing (he loves Hinako in particular). He says the MU is neat, even if he’d prefer Juri VS Mileena, and Yamazaki is cool.

The Magic School Bus VS Captain Planet- They like it a lot. Liam compares it to a toon force version of the “man vs. car” scene from Rick and Morty, and he’d love to see the Magic School Bus on DB.

Vilgax VS Ridley (Ben 10 VS Metroid)- They gloss over it because it’d been discussed before. It’s fun and they like it.

(They skip past Silver Surfer VS Martian Manhunter for obvious reasons).

Hunter Zolomon VS Homura Akemi (DC VS Puella Magi Madoka Magica)- Liam explains the characters to Sam. It makes sense, and Liam says he doesn’t know who’d win, which makes Sam say it’s pretty good.

Hit VS Sakuya (Dragon Ball VS Touhou)- Liam is the one who came up with this MU years ago, solely because he was trying to find a good MU for Hit. He believes a lot of fans want it because they think he wants it, when it’s actually in the “IDK” category for him. John mentions that Sakuya used to get pit against DIO back in the day, and Liam says that DIO VS Sakuya was the best One-Minute Melee episode.

Rocky Balboa VS Joe Yabuki (Rocky VS Ashita no Joe)- They quickly say that it’s great, before moving on.

Kenny VS Death (South Park VS Puss in Boots)- It’s funny. John explains the mechanics of Kenny’s resurrection, and Liam starts thinking about how it’d be incorporated into the fight, before saying “I can’t believe I’m talking in hypotheticals about doing this episode”.

Kefka VS Lavos VS Odio (Final Fantasy VI VS Chrono Trigger VS Live A Live)- Sam doesn’t know anything about Live A Live, but loves the other two games. Liam thinks it’s a cool idea. John wants to see Kefka in DB, saying he’s one of his favorite characters. Liam says he’s seen Lavos VS Giygas, then later says he wants to add Giygas to this MU, or potentially have him replace Kefka, because he likes the theme of them being “force of nature” villains who destroy the world just because that’s what they do (though he’s not sure if that description is accurate for Odio).

Nagisa Shiota VS Alex Rider (Assassination Classroom VS Alex Rider)- Liam’s the only one who knows Alex Rider, and says he’s a cool character.

Donatello VS Coco (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles VS Crash Bandicoot)- Sam says it makes sense. Liam describes Coco as “Crash with tech”, and Donnie as “a Ninja Turtle with tech”, saying he like Donnie for that reason- he has the worst weapon of the turtles, but his tech is insane.

All Might VS Jotaro Kujo (My Hero Academia VS JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure)- Liam says it makes sense, to which John responds “Does it?” Liam explains the themes of passing the mantle, being mentor figures, and “big strong punches” (he notes All Might has a much stronger punch, which is why the OP specifically requested Part 6 Jotaro).

First matchup for the next Ballot Banter is Kabuto VS Shigaraki (Naruto VS My Hero Academia).
 

Astaro

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Part 6 Jotaro is straight up nerfed. Best version they want to use is End of Part 3 just when he acquires Timestop and has the easiest time sustaining it
 

OtherGalaxy

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Part 6 Jotaro is straight up nerfed. Best version they want to use is End of Part 3 just when he acquires Timestop and has the easiest time sustaining it
4 is nerfed, 6 (at least EOS) says he's got the same timestop he had as a teenager fighting Dio. But there's no indication 4 or 6's physical strength increased or decreased
 

Qinglong

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Technically Goku won and simultaneously lost against half of himself so he has half a win
 

Astaro

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4 is nerfed, 6 (at least EOS) says he's got the same timestop he had as a teenager fighting Dio. But there's no indication 4 or 6's physical strength increased or decreased
Yeah but they were talking about Part 6 Jotaro. Part 4’d even worse as mentioned.

Remember reading Jotaro still straining himself with Timestop for Part 6. Plus there’s that ugly drop in Endurance for Star Platinum, going from Part 3’s A tier straight down to bottom E tier
 

OtherGalaxy

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Yeah but they were talking about Part 6 Jotaro. Part 4’d even worse as mentioned.

Remember reading Jotaro still straining himself with Timestop for Part 6. Plus there’s that ugly drop in Endurance for Star Platinum, going from Part 3’s A tier straight down to bottom E tier
I'd chalk the last one up to stand stat weirdness. It's introduced in 6 with a higher endurance stat even though its time stop is still stuck at the 1-2 second mark (allegedly), but then when it gets that back to full power its endurance is supposed to be lower????
 

Qinglong

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To be fair I think the original/direct translation for endurance is "Staying power" which just brings mroe questions as to what that stat actually is
 

Astaro

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To be fair I think the original/direct translation for endurance is "Staying power" which just brings mroe questions as to what that stat actually is
Probably still means endurance. As in staying in the fight as it continues
 

Qinglong

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Yeah it seemingly has nothing to do with dura and might actually just be stamina
 

Flowering Knight

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Y'all are talking about Jotaro while I'm sitting here thinking about how Spawn doesn't deserve the absolute ass beating he'd be getting :mjlol
 
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