No because beating the author is trivial IMO, it's universal vs (now) multi-solar system level.
H-how?watch them accept both but also treat presence tier Trigon as valid
theres some comic that ive seen people bring up repeatedly where Trigon “faces the Presence” except what actually happens is the presence, in the form of a dog, offscreens Trigon so I don’t know why anybody would actually scale him seriously like that
i don't recall superman ever beating trigon
It's in Infinite Frontier. There is one story where a bunch of enemies break out of the Phantom Zone, including Trigon apparently. He just casually beats and imprisons him off screen like it was no big deal.
nah, superman at his best is pretty cracked, I don't see the saitama and popeye gap as being as big
Infinite Frontier did what Convergence and Inifnite Crisis softly did to the fullest extent and Superman is just a straight up composite and any (legitimate) feat he did across any incarnation is now 100% valid and not an outlier according to the new canon.
Well I'm not basing my take on what Death Battle thinks in regards to whatever scaling they gave Superman at his best (or Goku for that matter) in their third match-up (fuck that noise).
Neither have I. Guess I ain't the only one.
And so is Popeye.
I'm with you on this, I meant peak as in Supes best feats overall (which I guess are now available to him at all times)
Trigon is always in his “true form” he’s not a new god he isn’t a multiversal singularity. He’s universe level in feats and multiverse level scaling from weaker and comparable characters. It tips in Trigon’s favor but it’s not a stomp.
www.deviantart.com Any single being we see that comes from the Sphere of the Gods has a Godhead form we simply don't see or care about. This includes Nekron (Who in a Green Lantern comic explicitly stated he had a true form they never see), Neron, Death in Where is Thy Sting (Again basically spelled out that it all happened in the Sphere of the Gods, New Gods, all the pantheons in Skyland, etc. Trigon rules his own space in Hell, he exists on the same ontological level as Darkseid. Just because we never saw his Godhead true self doesn't meant it doesn't exist because it logically must given he resides in Hell.
Nekron's past is a mystery we don't know where he came from other than the fact that he's amorphously darkness and death incarnate
Neron is the devil ofcourse his true form isn't some blonde dude wearing a cape, he's a shapeshifter.
That means precisely jack crap, because Gant Morrison specifically referred to multiversal singularities as just the New Gods (and later scott snyder included Perpetua) existing in a higher dimension doesn't mean there aren't copies of oneself across the multiverse, Max Nobu himself said this when he excluded Perpetua from that statement (meaning he and the monitors have them as well and we see multiple medias with otehr monitors as well) obviously the CW Anti-Monitor from their COIE and the recent Tomorrowverse's Anti-Monitor are not the same ones as the one from the mainline comics.
No he doesn't the only beings that have been officially confirmed as multiversal singularities are the New Gods, the 5-D imps, Perpetua and for obvious reasons the Presence and the Writer.
