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Game Ranked Dune Mafia - town victory

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Sparkles said:
Why ultra? Besides his insist earning for my yeet? @Poyser
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think he's been largely full of crap tbh lol
the only reason i didnt vote him earlier is because i thought he might be right on you being scum. i was waiting for you to show up and prove yourself town and you didn't, so thought chances were high you were scum, which would make him town. But Im starting to think you're town, so i don't have the same reservations
 
Poyser said:
because why would he hard clear guillo if not using that clear to shade me or you or whatever? whats the point
you're saying you dont think ratchet has respect for guillo, so whats the point? again, its the strength of the way he cleared with. he left no opportunity to change. unless you're saying he'd do it to pocket guillo but again, you're saying he doesnt respect guillo and that hes a trainwreck so clearly thats not the point either

its pretty clear that the optimal play by far would either be join on guillo and take what is likely an easy lynch against someone thats probably going to keep making themselves look bad, or soft defend him and let me drive it knowing that he's probably going to keep looking bad. or as i say, hard defend guillo and use that to paint me as picking on an easy target/being a predator/pushing in bad faith etc etc etc

he just took him off the table and did nothing with it. there's not really a scum angle there unless they're both scum
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Guillo is basically a walking magnet for negative attention, and regardless of his own boasting I don't think he's really all that good at navigating who's actually scum around these parts. Like I literally said, not much difference from say throwing a town read on Aurelian. Circumstantial of course but I'm also speaking to personally being scum and feeling almost zero compulsion to kill Guillo even after he claimed cop. I think it's a poor reason for Ratchet especially who doesn't really operate on a level 1 basis where he's obliged to chainsaw defend his town reads in the most predictable fashion imaginable

That's my best attempt at explaining it it's a pretty simple concept so if you don't get it can't be helped
 
also fwiw lethal i dont hate your points on cp either, but im not gonna pretend i have much of an opinion on him atm and would rather wait and see what he brings when he has some meat on the bone
 
Poyser said:
do you read every player the same way or?
not really sure what the point of this question is

its also completely different
ratchet defended you and called you his strongest town read
ekko defended you a LOT and not once did he say he read you town, in fact he very much left you open on his end
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It’s because i understand that every plsyer is different, that i can understand a townie can defend me while hard townreading me and another one defend me out of principle without necessarily townread me.

Ekko has way more reasons to be cautious about me than Ratchet. Ratchet has never seen me scum.
 
Poyser said:
think he's been largely full of crap tbh lol
the only reason i didnt vote him earlier is because i thought he might be right on you being scum. i was waiting for you to show up and prove yourself town and you didn't, so thought chances were high you were scum, which would make him town. But Im starting to think you're town, so i don't have the same reservations
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Listen, i had a poor start, i tend too more often than not regardless of alignment. I’m trying to play with literally just the time I have too make it to a meeting, but his push on me has not been in good faith. I’ll put in the effort required tonight when I have actual time too. For now you’re just gonna have too trust that i can activity and solve clear when i’m back
 
Poyser said:
also fwiw lethal i dont hate your points on cp either, but im not gonna pretend i have much of an opinion on him atm and would rather wait and see what he brings when he has some meat on the bone
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RECOGNITION!!!!

Could give some heat to him though
 
Lethal said:
Respect is something that’s earned, not just given. If you understood more about my background & culture, you'd see where I’m coming from. Let’s keep things respectful though, please.

I think you constantly referring back to this, when I have made positive steps to move on, are a fault on your character.
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Ok. Fine. I’ll move on
 
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