Hidan (Naruto) vs Buggy (One Piece)

[Solar Sailor]

what's relevant is hidan's showing against kakashi

Hidan rode on Kakuzu’s coattails to fight Kakashi

You read the manga, Hidan used himself as a distraction to bomb out Kakashi with Lightning. And then he kept up with a weaker Kakashi

who noted to be tired after overusing his sharingan and chidori and trying to sneak attack him

Noted by the fact that Shikamaru could get the drop on Hidan too.

Again, Sakura >>> Shikamaru

 

[Type-Rey]

He did kill Asuma... but of course the obvious rebuttal to that is

Sure, but there's a little bit of context behind how that happened , no ?

 

[Solar Sailor]

He did kill Asuma... but of course the obvious rebuttal to that is:

Who cares about Asuma?

Couldn’t do it without help anyhow.

Unlikely Hidan would have succeeded if the team was actually informed

Thanks Itachi.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

If this was the old OBD from what I've seen, we would be having pics of Bob's portrait defending Hidan with someone making Hidan blush and going full Japanese Tsundere for it or some shit.

Because this is some of the most hilarious shit I've seen in a long ass time.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Sure, but there's a little bit of context behind how that happened , no ?

Yeah I know, Kakuzu was also fighting him, Asuma got grievously burned and Hidan took advantage of that.
So yeah, it wasn't even a clean win either... fuck me Hidan sucks.

 

[Bob74h]

What would have Hidan done against Sakura that Sasori cannot?

he's faster by scaling to kakashi and he only needs one cut to use his ritual


Something which without intel would easily beat sakura


Sasori can lose even with intel, you just have to seal him
or be fast enough to dodge his poison coated blades

both of which, Is entirely possible by say gaara


the second of which is entirely possible by hidan, he dodge sasori's bladed weapons just fine if he can keep up with kakashi then he dodge sasori


it's that simple


not to mention, he beat yugito
a bjuu


Hidan just better feats then sasori of the fodder sand

Why is Hidan > Sakura and Sasori when Hidan lost to Shikamaru? Clean? By himself?

sasori would of lost in the same instance too
the paper bombs would of blown him apart



and it's not like shikamaru beat him in hand to hand
he had a trap set

Cool, again, Chiyo is literally an analogue to a Konoha San Nin and Sakura has Tsunade's strenght.

sakura never surpassed tsunade


or even scaled to it

His other feats include killing a Kage level person and toying with one of the most powerful people from part one. One who dealt with a Jounin + level Sound Four.

that sound 4 member was nerfed from fighting kiba

and didt even lose purposefully, he got overconfident


and besides sasori struggled so hard against kankuro, that it's hard to even imagine him beating the sound 5

That's what you want to believe

it's more a inference

deidara says he was baiting out naruto
so stands to reason that he was not being truthful as to keep naruto following him

 

[Bob74h]

So you are literally using your own headcanon rather than what the manga and the anime itself tells you?

says the dude ignoring sakura beating sasori

as to pretend that sasori is some strong dude

instead of the fodder who was the only akatsuki out 4 to die in that arc

 

[Masterblack06]

You know I was gonna type up a whole response to Bob, but then I rememered that this is the guy who took a scene out of context to try and downplay Darkrai and then attempted to double down despite being proven wrong and also tries to use the games to disprove the anime and vice versa.

People would take you more seriously Bob if you werent so dishonest with how you debate.

You go on about how no one uses facts or evidence but when people post facts and evidence to counter your claims you put your fingers in your ears and act like you dont know what anyones talking about.

Since you said you dont care what we think then I have to ask you. Why make threads, why post in this section in the first place. Why even be here?

 

[Syla]

It's always HST threads isn't it.

 

[Bob74h]

fuck me Hidan sucks.

only in onelastforum's madeup version

in the series
he tanked an attack from a bjuu

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835807609931300906/1142949455826526262/yugito_fires_a_attack.gif

and kept up with kakashi in h2h



truly the actual series version scales so much higher then this site's fan fiction version

 

[Type-Rey]

sakura never surpassed tsunade


or even scaled to it

I never said she did ? Especially at that point ?

But fuck me, if Kakashi , who you;re using as an example to wank Hidan , thought he should dodge, than fuck me, that;s strong enough.

that sound 4 member was nerfed from fighting kiba

and didt even lose purposefully, he got overconfident

He intervened specifically because Kiba couldn't handle him and then proceeded to outsmart him for pretty much all the fight.

Unless you can prove that he was tired enough to the point where he regressed to behind his standing, this is not that important.

and besides sasori struggled so hard against kankuro, that it's hard to even imagine him beating the sound 5

Yeah, that never happened.
I mean he never even used his best puppets against him.
If you struggle against someone, you tend to use your best shit.

Him struggling against Kankuro is pure fiction. Nothing more.

it's more a inference

My point exactly.

 

[Bob74h]

People would take you more seriously Bob if you werent so dishonest with how you debate.

your friends are gonna think what they want regardless of my tactics

and same goes for me

except ofc im to think im right and im to think you lot are wrong but guess same goes for you guys too

but then I rememered that this is the guy who took a scene out of context to try and downplay Darkrai

it's just dishonest

I have presented dozens of examples excluding that

and you just use this one against me cause you think it's a own or something


and when you brought up he beat them, I didt say it never happened


I instead said well still needed to block and that's way more honest then any of you folks really are

You go on about how no one uses facts or evidence but when people post facts and evidence to counter your claims you put your fingers in your ears and act like you dont know what anyones talking about.

We can go over countless threads


it's always me posting proof for shit

Roronoa Zoro vs Piccolo

To be more specific, this is Zoro during the The Raid on Onigashima going up against the following Piccolos. Wanna see how strong Zoro himself has become recently Round 1: King Piccolo Round 2: Piccolo Jr (23rd World Martial Arts Tournament) Who Wins?

onelastforum.com

Piccolo Daimao vs Pein Rikudo

Anime versions Both characters are motivated to kill Setting, king furry's castle. youth restored daimao

onelastforum.com

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Bob I say this with all sincerity:
Go get some help my guy. This is the most unhinged I have ever seen you and it's honestly a little creepy at this point...

says the dude ignoring sakura beating sasori

as to pretend that sasori is some strong dude

instead of the fodder who was the only akatsuki out 4 to die in that arc

Yes because if you remove all of the context, it's fucking stupid that Hidan lost to Shikamaru... oh wait, that's not even context in how he lost to Shikamaru vs. Sasori losing to Sakura that you love to ignore:

- Sakura was a glorified assist to Chiyo
- Sakura created an antidote that only Tsunade herself could have done and had to use it multiple times to take down one of Sasori's strongest puppets through a feint
- Chiyo ultimately used Sasori's own parents as Puppets which basically had Sasori allow them to kill him.

vs.

- Shikamaru literally outsped and blitzed Sasori and made him out to be a complete bitch.

Yeah, we "made that up"

You know I was gonna type up a whole response to Bob, but then I rememered that this is the guy who took a scene out of context to try and downplay Darkrai and then attempted to double down despite being proven wrong and also tries to use the games to disprove the anime and vice versa.

People would take you more seriously Bob if you werent so dishonest with how you debate.

You go on about how no one uses facts or evidence but when people post facts and evidence to counter your claims you put your fingers in your ears and act like you dont know what anyones talking about.

Since you said you dont care what we think then I have to ask you. Why make threads, why post in this section in the first place. Why even be here?

He's acting like videos from Naruto are just so hard to get... when they are some of the easiest shit to find on Youtube:



Like this is the entire fight, one dude getting embarrassed beyond fucking belief by Shikamaru, by himself. No aid, no deception, nothing.
Bob is in absolute headcanon mode.

 

[Bob74h]

But fuck me, if Kakashi , who you;re using as an example to wank Hidan , thought he should dodge, than fuck me, that;s strong enough.

kakashi is a example sure

It's a better metric then kankuro and sakura



Everybody hidan engages with would be tiers better then sakura


Yugito/mata tabi is stronger then sakura

chiruku is stronger then sakura


kakuzu is stronger then sakura

Unless you can prove that he was tired enough to the point where he regressed to behind his standing, this is not that important.

still won as a result of underestimating kankuro

I mean he never even used his best puppets against him.

sasori when lamenting how he's getting his ass kicked


said im resorting to my best puppets
What do you think those were

perhaps hiruko and the third kazekage???



wouldt that mean, he used one of his best versus kankuro

 

[Bob74h]

- Sakura was a glorified assist to Chiyo

Not true

sakura can keep up with sasori all on her own

at least that's what the facts say
and im to only follow facts unlike this website

 

[Masterblack06]

your friends are gonna think what they want regardless of my tactics

and same goes for me

except ofc im to think im right and im to think you lot are wrong but guess same goes for you guys too

its because your tactics are dishonest

it's just dishonest

I have presented dozens of examples excluding that

and you just use this one against me cause you think it's a own or something

Its not just that one, there have been multiple times youve done this

and when you brought up he beat them, I didt say it never happened


I instead said well still needed to block and that's way more honest then any of you folks really are

My brother in christ you lied and said Darkrai got negged by random pokemon. then when proved wrong you attempted to say he needed to block. If needing to block makes you weaker than where you actually are then Goku must be sub bullet level.

The dishonesty needs to stop my dude.

We can go over countless threads


it's always me posting proof for shit

Roronoa Zoro vs Piccolo

To be more specific, this is Zoro during the The Raid on Onigashima going up against the following Piccolos. Wanna see how strong Zoro himself has become recently Round 1: King Piccolo Round 2: Piccolo Jr (23rd World Martial Arts Tournament) Who Wins?

onelastforum.com

Piccolo Daimao vs Pein Rikudo

Anime versions Both characters are motivated to kill Setting, king furry's castle. youth restored daimao

onelastforum.com

>its always me
You remember that thread where OG posted a shit ton of evidence at you and then you ignored all that shit to continue trying to push a narrative.

just stop dude. its getting sad at this point

 

[Bob74h]

- Chiyo ultimately used Sasori's own parents as Puppets which basically had Sasori allow them to kill him.

only lost cause he was off guard

the killing himself is fan fiction to excuse the gap between what the fandom thinks and what the actual series thinks


it's the same bs with isshiki being off guard to kaguya
it's a tactic to deny the underlying facts presented because those facts are not inline with the fanbase

 

[Bob74h]

You remember that thread where OG posted a shit ton of evidence at you and then you ignored all that shit to continue trying to push a narrative.

so the random dude is the one with the agenda
the guy who nobody likes or agrees with

Not the site which has a blind consensus and actively ignores factual information in favor of narratives


And citation for that anyway

its because your tactics are dishonest

it's literally not that

no matter how im to explain x thing

your going to disagree with it by manner of consenus
you said this before lol

but sure
im the dishonest one

 

[Type-Rey]

kakashi is a example sure

It's a better metric then kankuro and sakura

I'm sorry, do you have reading comprehension problems ?

Kakashi, who you are using as an example to wank Hidan, was impressed with Sakura's strenght and compelled to dodge her shit, elsewise , shit would have been bad.

That alone, is enough to prove Sakura's strenght as a threat despite the fact that she wasn't at Tsunade's lvl yet.

That's my point.

There rest, is just gibberish on your part .

still won as a result of underestimating kankuro

Not proof to what i asked.

sasori when lamenting how he's getting his ass kicked


said im resorting to my best puppets
What do you think those were

perhaps hiruko and the third kazekage???

His best puppets are himself and the Third.

Hiruko isn't one of them.

And why are you linking a post from his fight against Sakura and Chiyo where he used his best as opposed to a post against Kankuro where he didn't ?

 

[Bob74h]

Kakashi, who you are using as an example to wank Hidan, was impressed with Sakura's strenght and compelled to dodge her shit, elsewise , shit would have been bad.

Kakashi fought both naruto and sakura at once

and was winning

His best puppets are himself and the Third.

debatable if sasori puppet is better then hiruko

but in that sentence he called hiruko one of his best

having to resort to using hi best, he only wasted the third and hiruko shell yet

And why are you linking a post from his fight against Sakura and Chiyo where he used his best as opposed to a post against Kankuro where he didn't ?

cause he called hiruko

one of the best in that instance