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OBD Convo #27: The Show Must go on!
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Jiren’s been retconned to be on the same tier as Broly per Super Hero so it should be close
Maybe, but if he controlled his power he would crush Jiren
It seems controlling his power is how Broly’s power will shoot up, just like Freeza said. It’s already implied he would have beaten Gogeta Blue (from that arc) had he controlled himself
Some pamphlet talking about Broly’s strength mentions that
Freeza also said Broly would flat out be the strongest in the universe if he learned to control himself, and still wants him on his side if he has to face Goku and Vegeta again (which means Broly’s potential > Gohan’s during the Broly movie too)
Like to see if it really said Broly > Gogeta
I see Broly and Gohan neck and neck for greatest potential. Both have claims of being the strongest and Gohan will have the edge if Super Manga has him fighting Perfect Cell Max
I don’t really buy that (since it also said they fought evenly), but Freeza’s comment about needing him to beat Goku and Vegeta makes me think that Broly’s potential reaches that high after learning to control himself some time after
I don’t really buy that (since it also said they fought evenly), but Freeza’s comment about needing him to beat Goku and Vegeta makes me think that Broly’s potential reaches that high after learning to control himself some time after
That form also calls Blue "the best one could aim for" when UI exists, so I'd take it with a truckload of salt
Yup, it’s inaccurate since the fight was pretty much over once Gogeta went Blue.
I don’t really buy that (since it also said they fought evenly), but Freeza’s comment about needing him to beat Goku and Vegeta makes me think that Broly’s potential reaches that high after learning to control himself some time after
Completely one-sided to where Broly was getting ragdolled the whole time, failing to land a hit himself.
To Broly’s credit, his attacks were strong enough to warrant Gogeta to dodge every one of (compare that to Janemba who he took a straight punch to the face from he didn’t bother to even block) and as mentioned, Broly had no control or technique to Gogeta’s skills
Between that and how much it took from Gogeta to wear him down, I see Gogeta vs Broly in control of himself as being a lot harder but still a fight he edges out in the end unless it takes too long for the Fusion to last
Don’t forget SSB Kaioken, SSB Evolved, or even the manga Mastered SSB without the aura. All of Gogeta should have access toThat form also calls Blue "the best one could aim for" when UI exists, so I'd take it with a truckload of salt
I thought the only thing that was retconned, was Jiren's power, which was way above Goku and Vegeta throughout the TOP until the end, because of a bunch of powering up, to him being hardly any stronger than them to begin with(which makes absolutely no fucking sense, but lol, Toriyama) but he merely used his power more efficiently?
Might just be trying to stir shit up.
AEW will remain bush league until he resigns from the showrunning role though.
Pretty much but before this movie people wanted to argue that Broly was far ahead of Jiren
Hardly call it a retcon. Vegeta made that claim and anything he says can be taken with a grain of salt
Jiren was fighting Vegeta with even less effort than he did fighting Goku and even surpassing his own limits (SSBE) didn’t warrant Jiren needing to go all out
That's why I said it makes absolutely no sense, lol. Not even the shitty fanfic manga portrayed what Vegeta said as being the case.
Like I said, I do agree he's most likely trying to stir shit up but this is honestly a child's way of doing it and it just makes your entire division look bad.
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