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10 Worst Writing Decisions In Dragon Ball Super
Dragon Ball Super is known for having a few hiccups with inconsistencies, retcons, and just plain terrible writing at times.www.cbr.com
going into space is kino, imagine hating on it
Made extra brain dead by the fact that this is something that almost every anime ever does but somehow it's only a problem when Trigger does it.going into space is kino, imagine hating on it
I mean he DOES earn it, specifically by being willing to swallow his pride and borrow power from his friends to reach the form in the first place. But what does putting the needs of his home and loved ones ahead of himself matter in the grand scheme of things, am I right?10) Goku Absorbing The Super Saiyan God Power
Goku has taken a few shortcuts throughout the entirety of Dragon Ball and sadly, Super Saiyan God is one of them. Goku has spent years training and the only way he was able to match Beerus in combat was by borrowing the power of others. This was an uncharacteristic thing for Goku to do, but it was the only shot at defeating Beerus, one of the strongest anime characters of all time.
However, the worst part is that Goku is somehow able to absorb this power and keep it as its own. He doesn't earn this power and the rest of his strength in the series is built up from this point. It doesn't make sense for the character or the show.
It's almost like he's an incredibly capable fighter with a lot of abilities the others don't have access to. He wasn't brought back for his power level.9) Master Roshi's Return
Master Roshi was a prominent character in the original Dragon Ball series. He was a highly skilled martial artist and helped train characters like Goku, Krillin, and Yamcha. However, Roshi was quickly surpassed by the main cast and soon fell behind in power and skill. This shifts in an odd way in Dragon Ball Super where the series suddenly brings Roshi back.
Why is this a problem? Those Frieza soldiers were fodder and there was nothing to indicate they were beyond Roshi to begin with. Hell Krillin panicks at the thought of fighting them, only to realize "these guys are hella weak sauce" and beats the shit out of them.Despite being a retired fighter far weaker than the others, he returns in the Golden Frieza arc and manages to hold his own against Frieza's soldiers.
Major role? He takes out a few fodder competitors, gets fucking trolled and beaten by Frost and then is told to get out by Vegeta when he's clearly at his limit and can do no more. What MAJOR ROLE is he serving?Not only does this make any sense given his power, but he also ends up playing a major role in the Tournament of Power. This makes no sense considering how baffled Roshi was by other characters' skills in the original series.
OH NO! They actually provided a logical explanation for how Vegeto defused that didn't amount to "bad air" as it did originally?8) Potara Fusion Has Become Useless
Potara Fusion was initially seen as the strongest version of Fusion in Dragon Ball. This is in part due to the fact that Potara Fusion was originally supposed to be a permanent combination of two characters. Originally, there wasn't a strong explanation as to why Goku and Vegeta were unfused in Majin Buu's body, but this was retconned in Dragon Ball Super.
The idea of their time being shortened by their power was already a thing, that's exactly what happened to SSJ4 Gogeta. It also depends on how hard they're fighting as SSjB Gogeta didn't defuse as fast against Broly. This only ends up speaking to how strong Merged Zamasu was, not how "useless" Potara fusion is.In Dragon Ball Super, the Fusion now only lasts an hour, which is thirty minutes longer than the Dance Fusion. While this still made the Fusion seem more impressive than its counterpart, they ended up adding that their time is shortened dramatically the stronger they are. This makes Potara Fusion completely pointless.
Their entire universe was at stake, one of their heavy hitters was going to miss the tournament due to an extended nap and they quite literally had no better option. I mean what was the alternative, fucking YAMCHA?7) Letting Frieza Join Team Universe 7
Frieza is a villain who never learns from his mistakes and has constantly returned in Dragon Ball. His resurrection for the Tournament of Power felt so unbelievably out of character for Goku and Frieza. Goku knows the danger of Frieza and already learned his lesson in the Golden Frieza arc that his mercy was a mistake. That's why he quickly kills Frieza after Whis turns back time.
Frieza had also been confined to a mind-numbing existance in Hell and was desparate for a way out. Weather he hates Goku or not, he's not going to say no to a chance to be brought back to life and get out of that shit, how would he get his revenge otherwise?There's absolutely no reason that Goku would've returned this kind of danger to the world. Secondly, Frieza despises Goku and the others with a deep hatred that goes far beyond the care of his own life. Revenge was all that was important to Frieza, no matter how illogical his rashness had been. But to fight alongside Goku and Vegeta simply didn't make sense.
This is one of the few where he KIND of has a point. Trying to incorporate this into the actual Tournament of Power wouldn't really have worked, as it would drag the arc out FAR too long. But the other universes definitely stand to get some development after the tournament.6) The Universes Are Dry & Feel Small
One of the most exciting aspects of the Tournament of Power was to see the various new species that would come from each universe. There was an opportunity to add deep backstories with interesting worldbuilding as well, however little was done in this regard.
Instead, the universes didn't feel vast, complex, or interesting at all. Many of them didn't even feel like a single planet due to how they shared the same culture. A planet itself should already be diverse with many different cultures and beliefs. So for an entire universe to be relatively the same with a few different races made absolutely no sense.
Ultra Instinct was a concept brought up as early as Resurrection of F. Rather than just being a power up, it's a technique that allows the user to move without thinking, radically improving their reaction time. However it requires to completely calm their mind, which is something even Goku found difficult to do.5) Ultra Instinct
Ultra Instinct has been a huge headache in both the anime and the manga. In the anime, the transformation simply served as a plot armor device with no real apparent depth. It was just a technique that Goku unlocked every time he was near the brink of being defeated.
Fair point with regards to the manga though.In the manga, there is an effort to give more meaning to the transformation and ability. Recently in the Granolah arc, Ultra Instinct has become far more interesting. However, its initial debut didn't make much sense, and it brought flashbacks to Goku of training from his childhood of trials that he had already mastered. The story seems to constantly regress Goku's skill as a warrior.
Yeah aside from how badly Broly was beating their asses, how quickly he was growing in power and the fact they had no other way of defeating Broly, they had NO REASON TO FUSE AT ALL.4) Gogeta Was Simply Fanservice
The entirety of Dragon Ball Super: Broly was a fanservice film. The movie compiled some of the most popular movies all into one: Bardock, the Father of Goku, Broly – The Legendary Super Saiyan, Broly – Second Coming, and Fusion Reborn. Goku and Vegeta never had a true reason to fuse against Broly.
No they fused whenever they came up against an enemy who was too powerful for them to fight otherwise. Kid Buu wasn't that strong and therefore Goku let his pride get the better of him.Previously, Goku and Vegeta only ever fused when fighting against an enemy who wasn't using their own strength. This is one reason why Goku refuses to use Fusion against Kid Buu.
Almost immediately? They spent a good chunk of the movie's runtime getting their asses kicked by him.However, there's little debate or discussion about this in Broly and the two of them begin their attempts to fuse into Gogeta against one of the deadliest Dragon Ball characters almost immediately.
Eh I'll give him this one, those sound way too damn convenient.3) Cereal's Dragon Balls
There have been a fair share of Dragon Balls featured in the franchise. However, none have had lazier or worse writing than Planet Cereal's. The dragon, Toronbo, grants only one wish but only two Dragon Balls are even required to summon him. On top of this incredibly convenient dragon, the Dragon Balls do not turn into stone after being used.
This means that wishes can be granted over and over again as long as the balls can be found each time. There also aren't any obvious limitations to Toronbo's powers as he's able to make Granolah and Gas both incredibly more powerful. There is a drawback to this wish, but it feels like far too convenient of a plot device in the story.
Cheapens the original scene how exactly? What kind of asinine bullshit is that? Just because you pay homage to something doesn't cheapen it.2) Beast Gohan Is Too Unoriginal
Beast Gohan is Gohan's strongest Dragon Ball form yet but is one of the worst-designed transformations in Dragon Ball and the writing behind the form isn't much better. The entire intent of the transformation is for it to mirror Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 form from the Cell Games.
The scene is almost exactly the same as Gohan's transformation in the Cell Games, and it happens against another version of Cell. This was expected given how many similarities Super Hero already had with the Cell Games, but the lack of originality is painfully apparent. It instead cheapens Gohan's original Super Saiyan 2 scene.
Except the ONLY characters who truly power crept up to SSJG levels where Frieza, Piccolo, Gohan. Android 17 and Future Trunks. YES this IS a problem, but it's one that you're massively exaggerating by acting like it applies to every character..1) The Power Creep
Hitting the wall of the gods was an incredible feat on both Goku and Vegeta's parts. Beerus's strength was incredible when he was first introduced. So much so, that a Super Saiyan 3 Goku couldn't injure him at all. While Goku and Vegeta are able to get to this point through intense godly training, somehow the other cast members are able to keep up.
Goku and Vegeta had already been leagues ahead of most of the other characters before even reaching the level of a god, so it makes no sense that most of the other characters should've been anywhere near that level. This power creep was an issue throughout the series, and it felt as if the series simply didn't care. Characters were as strong as they needed to be for the plot.
dude Dragon Ball.I got lost when I saw a robot, android, and dinosaur all introduced by one mangaka
Kirbonic or Mad dog. Could be either one of the two. Their excuses for not liking/wanting it have never been good.he doesn't like the Mu you know who he is from the VSBW thread
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