Game Ranked OLF Christmas Mafia 2023 (Day 9)

EkkoLoJinx · Dec 18, 2023

my 2 cents is ratchet/poyser is town town and it comes down to the fact that ratchet, like gram, struggles with identifying silly shit and can get hung up on logical inconsistencies, while poyser and magic are able to filter out bullshit more effectively and arrive at silly town reads

by extension it means i think luka is town as well. i dont hold him nearly as high regard as ultra does after seeing his play last game so

the biggest surprise in that read back was that ultra/gram are on the opposite side of where id expect them to be. i thought gram wud get hung up over the logical bs and scum read luka like ratchet, while ultra wud be able to see him more townish. not sure if this is anything alignment indicative for them though, maybe more so gram than ultra

Dr. Watson · Dec 18, 2023

Unvote Gadministraitor

EkkoLoJinx · Dec 18, 2023

id very much still like to yeet nibel, anyone down?

Luka · Dec 18, 2023

Dr. Watson said:
1. You know Ultra has pull and it could go very badly if you concealed it
2. You didn't prioritize revealing this info because your mind was set on maintaining your ISOs and reads on people
Can I ask you why being a DVer wasn't just something you could just come out with while doing the ISOs?

I don't think so?
for the first part, I think the only reason I outed is for hammer reasons, or at least it's the main one. The second part is I more as so didn't out it since I forgot what role I am. 5 games i'm in started today, I think it would be a miracle if I remeembered my role in all of them

EkkoLoJinx · Dec 18, 2023

vote lynch nibel

Luka · Dec 18, 2023

Gadministraitor said:
2. Which slot are you talking about? I forgot lel.

myself.

Dr. Watson · Dec 18, 2023

Luka said:
I don't think so?
for the first part, I think the only reason I outed is for hammer reasons, or at least it's the main one. The second part is I more as so didn't out it since I forgot what role I am. 5 games i'm in started today, I think it would be a miracle if I remeembered my role in all of them

Oh dear

I want to make it abundantly clear given last game your "I forgot actually" card has been burned

Luka · Dec 18, 2023

Dr. Watson said:
Oh dear

I want to make it abundantly clear given last game your "I forgot actually" card has been burned

One second I can link a few town flipped games where I forgot if you want

Sharter Holmes · Dec 18, 2023

Poyser said:
There is clear progression

He thinks ultra is scum, he sees ultra attack him and then sees me come in and attack him too, explicitly saying I agree with ultras points. I think it makes perfect sense to immediately be paranoid that we are in tandem going for his throat as town. As scum, I don’t see where that progression would come from at all. He’d be way more self aware that he had me as his top town read and can’t just then accuse me of being scum for attacking him

Nvm, still town reading him.

Would you like to come in for some Hanukkah food? Cause all Hanukkah food is best food.

EkkoLoJinx · Dec 18, 2023

@Ratchet if luka were to be revealed town now, where wud u want to go?

Luka · Dec 18, 2023

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1016107617883541566/1186443563215630428/image.png?ex=659344ac&is=6580cfac&hm=5f7ad860a8927639d1c7cb02ea9ac609f346e876bb3297d37ae428e86164c6bb&

A very town flipped Luka
did this game in specific since its funny

Luka · Dec 18, 2023

Ultra said:
@Luka

Oh no! You forgot to finish your catch-up. What happened!?

4 other games started today & very busy with IRL stuff

Sharter Holmes · Dec 18, 2023

Dr. Watson said:
Unvote Gadministraitor

Thank you amnesia buddy.

I appreciate you like Hanukkah appreciates you being here

Do you have any reads so far?

Sky · Dec 18, 2023

Ekkologix said:
vote lynch nibel

For what reason

Dr. Watson · Dec 18, 2023

Luka said:
One second I can link a few town flipped games where I forgot if you want

Here's the thing, comparisons from town play mean jack shit when this is stuff done as scum. It completely overrides what leeway I give people

This doesn't apply just to you; I mean this in general

If you don't use the I forgot card as scum in 2-3 scum games of yours, I'll take it under consideration and it can be classified as official NAI. It's the fact that you hid under the guise of seemingly innocuous shit that had been burnt re: the census

Dr. Watson · Dec 18, 2023

Gadministraitor said:
Thank you amnesia buddy.

I appreciate you like Hanukkah appreciates you being here

Do you have any reads so far?

Posted them recently but I'm missing a chunk of pages I think

Sharter Holmes · Dec 18, 2023

Also, I've kinda caught up. Need someone to summarize the last 7 pages tho please. I think I have a simplistic idea of what's happening even though I don't think I've managed to catch every detail cause it's hard to do that when you're trying to read 35+ pages.

Seriously, I pulled the one amazing roll this time and it allows me to fully bask in the glory of Hanukkah.

The Orca · Dec 18, 2023

Luka said:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1016107617883541566/1186443563215630428/image.png?ex=659344ac&is=6580cfac&hm=5f7ad860a8927639d1c7cb02ea9ac609f346e876bb3297d37ae428e86164c6bb&
A very town flipped Luka
did this game in specific since its funny

Posting this for fun?

Sharter Holmes · Dec 18, 2023

Vote Polar Bear

Who wants some Hanukkah Latkes right now? So much better than Christmas cookies. These are so good, even your granny would trade you in for them.

Ultra · Dec 18, 2023

Alright just a quick sanity check here

Luka's early posts:

Luka said:
I like the SOD! Ignoring Alco in specific, instantly casting a vote + a relatively calm thread entrance, not really being wary of making enemies ^^.

Luka said:
I don't like this however. Same reason I didn't like Ekko jumping on the wagon during my first game here, it seems to have no thought process behind it and is a really akward thread entrance.
Town
Poyser
Caldust
Scum

Luka said:
Out of curiosity, why would you call out Sky and not Caldust for a worse thread entrance? I'd argue Sky's vote was fairly NAI, pretty sure she would say it as both.

Luka said:
Probably town? Last scum game they skated thread alot early on, first scum game they had a vote to start and it felt really awkward. This doesn't really feel like either, just calm and lax ^^.

Luka said:
I really like this start! Can't really elaborate on why, other than it feels like making enemies? Once again it's just a townie trying to have fun ^^.
Town
Poyser
Ekko
Alco
Ultra(?)
Caldust
Scum

Luka said:
Unpairing Ultra & Ral! Feels like first time greetings from seeing Ral in a game; IE: Not in the scum thread ^^.

Luka said:
Page 2 was mostly NAI. What I like from it is Gad's memey posting, gimmicks from what I've seen usually are more likely to come from town ^^. At least, if he sticks with it. Note for later, if folded under pressure It can change. I also liked Ratchets immedient gameplay related thoughts, jumping striaght into it with a read I can't really see. It doesn't feel expresssly pockety either, there are both easier players to pocket and easier messages to point out. Weakest read so far >.<.
Town
Poyser
Gad
Ekko
Alco
Ratchet
Ultra
Caldust
Scum

Luka said:
Townie post ^^.

Luka said:
Immedient Indie hunting which is always -ev + shows lack of scum hunting, not to mention having indies in your mind which further pushes the read given you aren't focusing on scum. Them asking Ratchet to sell them on the read also feels like they're trying to be read as town as opposed to actual solving in hindsight and conf bias.
Town
Poyser
Gad
Ekko
Alco
Ratchet
Ultra
Caldust
Bachi
Scum

vote lynch bachi

Luka said:
Not Gad's, Hans. I can't think >.<

Luka's later posts, under pressure:

Luka said:
Immediently sheeping a vote in thread with no thought process behind it that looks semi serious is interesting. RVS votes are Nai 99% of the time, I'd like to tihnk this falls into the 1%.
Town
Poyser
Gad
Ekko
Alco
Ratchet
Ultra
Caldust
Sky
Bachi
Scum

Luka said:
Poysers chainsaw defending ultra by attacking me while contributing nothing to the thread
Chain ultra poyser for 2/2

Luka said:
Lmao what bullshit is this flower followed the read all game

Luka said:
If ultra is town I’ll eat a shoe
Claim his pelt

Luka said:
Yes

Luka said:
Attacking me to defend ultra without giving thoughts on the thread state or isolated messages

Luka said:
My peak was 2023 we live in a society

Luka said:
Joycat
What’s your read on me again? “I think you’re mafia and I’m a god so I must be right?” Wasn’t it biased on faulty meta?

...How does anyone not see a massive shift in what content is being produced here?

Like, the first 10 minutes of the game they are making posts that try to sound legitimate, rubber stamped, but then shortly devolve into complete nonsense when live posting

Here's what I think happened - because the first group of posts all occured in like the span of 10 minutes which is crazy - I think Luka had scoped out the thread a bit and already figured out some talking points to use.

Then the moment he ran out of cue cards it's pure drivel and OMGUS lol

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