Game Ranked OLF Christmas Mafia 2023 (Day 9)

[Fujishiro]

@Lethal







The above is what I didn't like and there were other posts throughout the phase, fuji

These were before T-Pein showed up and Cladust led a push on him with Flowa.

 

[Flower]

Thing is, I can see both your points.

Issue with Rugrat is he only switched back to Pein after I made my "Silence, T Peasant!" post.

I would say he pushed him just as much as I did, but tonally he sounded angry at Pein after he botched his claim.

 

[Magic]

Cool and? Ra wasnt a one man push, a few people pushed him, who cares if people are uspet about mislynches? Its part of the game.

Yeah you can, people make mistake. Town isnt omniscient.

That would be the wrong way to do things, you could question those that pushed it but thats about it. With the thread positions of Flower and Caldust leading to a mislynch isnt the end of the world for them, Ral was scumread by more then them.

Im not saying thats not the case, Im saying there was no need to sacrifice a teammate of theirs to lynch Ral. Mislynch or not.

People make mistakes and one such mistake is forgiving people that lead mislynches. Literally any deep wolf can and will. I'm not saying it should confirm them as scum if someone does but you should definitely be scrutinized for it.

 

[Lethal]

I wanna re-read gram day 1 tbh as I think we’re missing something

 

[Magic]

These were before T-Pein showed up and Cladust led a push on him with Flowa.

Correct and again at that point they may have considered him a lost cause. It was salvageable until he came back and claimed the same role as evans and then just tried lynching flower and doing nothing else. You wouldn't continue trying to save that slot.

 

[Magic]

Thing is, I can see both your points.

Issue with Rugrat is he only switched back to Pein after I made my "Silence, T Peasant!" post.

I would say he pushed him just as much as I did, but tonally he sounded angry at Pein after he botched his claim.

Yup, he claimed the same role as evans then tried hard to justify it.

 

[Rugrat]

Thing is, I can see both your points.

Issue with Rugrat is he only switched back to Pein after I made my "Silence, T Peasant!" post.

I would say he pushed him just as much as I did, but tonally he sounded angry at Pein after he botched his claim.

this is not true lol

Vote Count

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Spoiler: Votes

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Vote Count Day 5

T-Pein (6): Ekko, Flower, Caldust, Prof, Fuji, Gad
Flower (2): Evans, TPein
Tweet (1): Lethal
Evans (2): Polar, Orca
Ral (3): Peggy, Tweet, Sky

Takes 9 to lunch​

Lynch TPein

Flower is confirmed town rbh

I'm the Town confirmed Queen.

Silence, T Peasant!

 

[Fujishiro]

People make mistakes and one such mistake is forgiving people that lead mislynches.

My brother, there is nothing to forgive. What are you gonna do? Lynch anyone that leads a mislynch? Enjoy lynching mostly townies then.

Literally any deep wolf can and will. I'm not saying it should confirm them as scum if someone does but you should definitely be scrutinized for it.

I agree they should be scrutinized but whose gonna do it? Their thread position was that of being town read by most. They could afford a mislynch especially when people other then them wanted to lynch Ral as well. So they arent even technically leading the lynch on him.

 

[Lethal]

Rugrat definitely does try this hard as scum, especially to clear himself as it's one of his main priorities in winning lol. That's faulty reasoning, rugrat isn't a shitty teammate.

And why would I be sus for being alive. I understand coming alive late but there's no reason for me to have been removed by nontown this game.

What reasoning do you disagree with?

But he’s been pro town all game from my pov. So I disagree completely.

It’s you lol. Look at who has been eliminated. You were AWOL for phases then come alive at a crunch point. Seems on the nose.

Rugrat. If he’s wolf and I lose to him then hat off.

 

[Fujishiro]

Correct and again at that point they may have considered him a lost cause.

Why? Nothing he did to make town want to lynch him until they called for votes on him.

It was salvageable until he came back and claimed the same role as evans

He claimed another character.

and then just tried lynching flower and doing nothing else.

Evans also tried lynching flower.

All in all there was still easily a way to just ignore Peins pushes on Flower and just focus on Ral, instead they went for Pein.

 

[Rugrat]

vote TPein

Let’s get rid of him

Let’s get rid of TPein

gift giver.
refilled melkor.

T-Pein accused me and Flower of being together (not in the sense I’d like either)

He has to go

Same as Evans lol

I was on T-Pein BEFORE his claim (but then if we are aligned, you’re led to believe I’d help him with his claim).

And then I was the first to pick up on his claim.

Why are we just making things up?

 

[Flower]

this is not true lol

Factually wrong.

I'm the Town confirmed Queen.

Silence, T Peasant!

Welcome to being the lynch for today, Ral



Vote Ral

Why do the three wise men have to be scum?

Pein said they are gift givers. Ekko claims the named character but nothing about gift

I’m not convinced, but it’s two players high on PoE and a third who lynched someone on fake info

Vote TPein

me and Evans are literally 2 gift givers and ekko is not
do the math bozo

Vote Lynch ekko

Unvote Vote Ekko

nah I’ll just unvote

Just stay on Pein Jfc.

Gonna need to sleep. GN.

Vote Pein

Unsere Deutsche Königin

Gute Nacht

You even voted Ekko and Ral in between.

 

[Flower]

And yeah, I don't think Ekko and Pein are aligned anymore. Ekko's claim seems legit.

 

[Lethal]

gift giver.
refilled melkor.

Ekko never confirms or denies this. Thing is though with 2 of the 3 in the game for sure, he kinda has to be town right? Unless it’s a fake….

 

[Magic]

But he’s been pro town all game from my pov. So I disagree completely.

It’s you lol. Look at who has been eliminated. You were AWOL for phases then come alive at a crunch point. Seems on the nose.

Rugrat. If he’s wolf and I lose to him then hat off.

no fucker, we're not doing any hats off bullshit. you literally called out tpein for doing the same shit with ekko 2 years ago. we are playing to win, including try to solve slots that could be deep wolves. not just picking off people based on how we rate their effort and if we are fine with lynching them. that should is inexusable.

if you disagree with the case work i did against rugrat then quote it and state reasoning. i made rather valid points, especially in regards to the day 3 nibel lynch where he unvoted ratched(at the same time as ichiago and when ratchet returned likely meaning he asked for votes off of him) then luka(his main suspect) voted nibel and he didnt care then he just voed nibel too without reasoning afer saying he's staying off both wagons/info cause he doesnt trrust it.

then day 4 starts and he speeds lynch rugrat without ever explaining the switch from day 3 when he town read him at the end. the speed lynch was also anti-town and rugrat is well aware of that

 

[Lethal]

And yeah, I don't think Ekko and Pein are aligned anymore. Ekko's claim seems legit.

See what I quoted

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Someone should revive Ratchet

 

[Rugrat]

Yawn.

You said I only voted TPein after your T Peasant post.

That is INCORRECT AND I DID NOT MOVE MY VOTE ONCE AFTER. STOP LYING


To clarify I have to be lynched because I’m the only player capable of making the SK kills and there’s zero% chance I’m mafia, has gone to I’m mafia now lol.

 

[Magic]

Why? Nothing he did to make town want to lynch him until they called for votes on him.

He claimed another character.

Evans also tried lynching flower.

All in all there was still easily a way to just ignore Peins pushes on Flower and just focus on Ral, instead they went for Pein.

evans claimed gift giver. tpein claimed gift giver. we dont do duplicate roles here. that's fucking up your claim.

 

[Flower]

Rugrat/Tweet or Rugrat/Sky would be my solve. Leaning the former.