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Let's try forming a decent Town core. Pein being Miller is awesome as f*** since I won't have to worry about that slot.
 
T-Pein™ said:
yall can count me in as a watson voter....
100%
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Did I miss your vote

Here's the updated count if so:
Dr. Watson (6) - Ratchet, Tweet, Flower, Psychic, Aurelian, T-pein
Flower (1) - Nibel
Nibel (1) - Gramma
Ultra (3) - Sky, CP, Gad
Lord Melkor (2) - Ekko
CraigPelton (4) - Ultra, Magic, Luka, Lord Melkor
Evans (1) - The Orca
Xadlin (1) - Rej
 
Flower said:
Can you read his posts and tell me what you think?
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has about 20 game posts.
doesn't look sus to me
not really pushing any of the people others are pushing.
Just Lord Melkor it seems.
Think he is on his coasting meta.
Last game he did this he was scum tho.
 
Ultra said:
If I had to make a best attempt at trying to translate my gut impression - I think she's grounding her considerations a bit more in trying to assess what the motives are behind her suspicion, for example (because she's confused), instead of assuming the suspicion and providing excuses outright.
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That makes more sense.
Dr. Watson said:
I have little patience for you this game, don't care if this is the weakest basis you ever done seen

Don't care what you're cooking

There's no point to this because, much like you, I don't feel you're trying to level with me either considering you're pressing for my wagon to begin with
And it doesn't seem to be out of trying to pressure or elicit responses from me - it seems like you've made up your mind and you're looking for things to reaffirm your stance on me I'm scum doing this and doing that

Difference between us is I'm 1) not voting you 2) leaving your slot for someone else to solve to reduce the chance I might unintentionally OMGUS by voting you 3) pressuring you is like pulling teeth

Do you really think this isn't a fruitless discussion? You clearly don't trust any intent you're sensing from me, so let's do this
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No this is garbage. You're basically saying you want to vote me back but you're concerned about how it's going to be perceived. I've explained my suspicion at every step and given you ample room to defend yourself - you have basically not done that. It's not like I just decided that you were scum and went straight for your lynch. Spare me the pity party - actually go back and read my posts to you, and then tell me you have no idea about where my suspicion comes from.

Kweh!
 
Dr. Watson said:
Did I miss your vote

Here's the updated count if so:
Dr. Watson (6) - Ratchet, Tweet, Flower, Psychic, Aurelian, T-pein
Flower (1) - Nibel
Nibel (1) - Gramma
Ultra (3) - Sky, CP, Gad
Lord Melkor (2) - Ekko
CraigPelton (4) - Ultra, Magic, Luka, Lord Melkor
Evans (1) - The Orca
Xadlin (1) - Rej
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I am sticking to Ultra but down to flip you.
that is what I meant
 
Votecount: D1 P1709
  • Index
    • Day 1 Vote Count

    Dr Watson (5) - Ratchet, Tweet, Flower, Psychic, Aurelian
    Flower (1) - Nibel
    Nibel (1) - Gramma
    Ultra (4) - Sky, CP, Gad, T-Pein
    Lord Melkor (1) - Ekko
    CraigPelton (4) - Ultra, Magic, Luka, Lord Melkor
    Evans (1) - The Orca
    Xadlin (1) - Rej

    With 25 alive, it's 13 to lynch. You have ~22 hours remaining.​
     
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    • Flower said:
    Just ISO his posts lel.
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    He's acting very toxic and doing the worst impression of what a town leader like me should be doing.

    I quite like the aggression though, I can't remember the last time I saw CP as mad as he has been here. Last game I played here and I duelled him, might be a good idea to compare!
     
    I do think Ultra has a good point in terms of her not assuming the suspicion is valid though, last game she was like a bot that just picked a position and back filled it.

    Might be worth getting pressure somewhere else. Gram's suggestion works - @Nibel | 花城 what gives?

    Kweh
     
    Dr. Watson said:
    2) leaving your slot for someone else to solve to reduce the chance I might unintentionally OMGUS by voting you
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    Look, I'll level with you as a the town leader here - I'm confused as to why you'd care about how you look if you're town and think Ratchet is scum?
     
    Flower said:
    Let's try forming a decent Town core. Pein being Miller is awesome as f*** since I won't have to worry about that slot.
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    The benefit of the doubt I'm giving you is below

    If Town!Flower:
    You aren't going to give any consideration to the possibility it's NAI?

    Two scenarios to consider before going gungho

    He gets points for saying he rolled himself, seems quite fitting and AI (no B4 Poy breaks his monitor) if he is being honest - there's no way to really prove this sadly.
    I don't know how likely it is statistically he'd roll himself. If he is being honest, then yes, I would agree to town lock him there *if* this is the case. I assume you're working under this scenario.

    Scenario two-
    Don't forget he's also lied about things as town, which you know already. You were pocketed by Fuji and worked under the assumption he wouldn't lie as miller, you need to be way more cautious with your reads if town. Remember that this is a scum tactic, too. Watch his play if you don't find it difficult to read him in general, not just his claim.


    The null part of my heart says this about you:

    If Scum!Flower
    This looks like there's no equity between you two imho

    I'm leaning more towards you being town but I'm still undecided, you're kind of just... there? I'll let someone else delve into your slot more
     
    There’s one thing that bothers me about CP in retrospect also - the tone of his responses in that standoff with ultraflower don’t exactly fit. He thinks ultra is scum and flower is his patsy - so why the hostility? Shouldn’t it just be a case of scum exploiting an exploitable player, it’s what they’re supposed to do right?

    I think flowers content there was shaq-fu level bad, but I’d be remiss if I didn’t point this out
     
    Dr. Watson said:
    The benefit of the doubt I'm giving you is below

    If Town!Flower:
    You aren't going to give any consideration to the possibility it's NAI?

    Two scenarios to consider before going gungho

    He gets points for saying he rolled himself, seems quite fitting and AI (no B4 Poy breaks his monitor) if he is being honest - there's no way to really prove this sadly.
    I don't know how likely it is statistically he'd roll himself. If he is being honest, then yes, I would agree to town lock him there *if* this is the case. I assume you're working under this scenario.

    Scenario two-
    Don't forget he's also lied about things as town, which you know already. You were pocketed by Fuji and worked under the assumption he wouldn't lie as miller, you need to be way more cautious with your reads if town. Remember that this is a scum tactic, too. Watch his play if you don't find it difficult to read him in general, not just his claim.


    The null part of my heart says this about you:

    If Scum!Flower
    This looks like there's no equity between you two imho

    I'm leaning more towards you being town but I'm still undecided, you're kind of just... there? I'll let someone else delve into your slot more
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    Retro, the guy straight up wanted to roast me when I was about to fake Miller in the Bleach game. I have zero reason to assume he's lying kek.
     
    Dr. Watson said:
    The benefit of the doubt I'm giving you is below

    If Town!Flower:
    You aren't going to give any consideration to the possibility it's NAI?

    Two scenarios to consider before going gungho

    He gets points for saying he rolled himself, seems quite fitting and AI (no B4 Poy breaks his monitor) if he is being honest - there's no way to really prove this sadly.
    I don't know how likely it is statistically he'd roll himself. If he is being honest, then yes, I would agree to town lock him there *if* this is the case. I assume you're working under this scenario.

    Scenario two-
    Don't forget he's also lied about things as town, which you know already. You were pocketed by Fuji and worked under the assumption he wouldn't lie as miller, you need to be way more cautious with your reads if town. Remember that this is a scum tactic, too. Watch his play if you don't find it difficult to read him in general, not just his claim.


    The null part of my heart says this about you:

    If Scum!Flower
    This looks like there's no equity between you two imho

    I'm leaning more towards you being town but I'm still undecided, you're kind of just... there? I'll let someone else delve into your slot more
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