Bro, literally the only one grand standing is you…you’re the one whose making the claim (pretty confidently) that shaking an atmosphere yields planet busting level energy , asking for proof beyond just “I eyeballed it” shouldn’t trigger you to get this defensive lolThat's not really making any grand stand of a point there dumbass...
Again, it shook 3 Planet sized Dimensions including the very atmosphere and everything about it.
Again, you are being an absolute idiot pretending he's smarter than he is as per the fucking usual, including asking for calcs when the most basic eyeball would tell you I'm right!
Apparently, it isn't planetry+. It barely breaks into the zettatons at best.Generally I don't like to discuss my own threads but this is interesting.
In the case of Senjumaru we have that she shook 3 worlds while she was in the Reio's palace, in another dimension for practical purposes, generally shaking a planet is a continental feat, a little more or a little less but there is one more piece of information that must be added.
In Bleach, breaking the balance means that the three worlds come back together, we know this when Ichigo stabs Reio.
Merging 3 worlds (the size of Earth) is a planetary feat, minimum 150 Zettatons if we want to give it a number.
We have the background that Zero Squad has a blood pact in which they can only release their true Reiatsu level when three of the four have died because if two or more release all their power they risk breaking the balance, that is, if more than one of them releases their power, that disaster would occur.
So... if two RG = Planet+ level then one RG would continue entering planetary levels, at least that is what makes the most sense taking all that into account, if they only shook the planets, they would not have such a pact and all of them would have used their bankais at the same time.
Apparently, it isn't planetry+. It barely breaks into the zettatons at best.
Solar in the OBD already killed planet level Bleach.
She added that the atmosphere shenanigans wouldn't add much and that because of the cross dimension stuff a portion of it is rendered unquantifiable.Nah, Solar really didn't.
Looking at the post, they went for Earthquake Calcs which doesn't work at all with what Shutara's feat actually did, something Solar admitted themselves and was on faulty info on top of that(Going by the old distance rather than the new distance).
She added that the atmosphere shenanigans wouldn't add much and that because of the cross dimension stuff a portion of it is rendered unquantifiable.
She only corrected herself about the distance.
We’re being safe by calling it planet levelBro, literally the only one grand standing is you…you’re the one whose making the claim (pretty confidently) that shaking an atmosphere yields planet busting level energy , asking for proof beyond just “I eyeballed it” shouldn’t trigger you to get this defensive lol
Based on what exactly? Shaking three planets isn't planet level and neither is shaking the atmosphere.We’re being safe by calling it planet level
That doesn't validate anything.There’s already people claiming it’s universal so this is very tame
Three different worlds that far apart from each other are affected by itBased on what exactly?
Range mattersShaking three planets isn't planet level and neither is shaking the atmosphere.
It validates saying planet level is on the safer sideThat doesn't validate anything.
Still not seeing any sources or cslcs that back up it being planet level, the distance between them via the garganta really isn’t that large compared to the actual size of planets themselves given from that picture or Ichigo’s team running through it in a short timeframe.Three different worlds that far apart from each other are affected by it
Maybe if those worlds were stacked on top of each other you guys would have a point but the distance between them is pretty noticeable
Range matters
It has to cross that wide distance for it to affect all three worlds (and that’s just 2 in the pictures above)
It doesn’t validate it being planet level which is what I meant and you know that.It validates saying planet level is on the safer side
Yes, they were shook they were not destroyed the massive gap between the two is the problem here especially since the mass of the atmosphere and the empty void of space are mostly unquantifiable factors when it comes to “shaking the dimension” hence why even with square inverse law you’d need to back this up with an actual calc.Senjumaru shook the three relms by the indirect shockwaves of her Bankai, not even her directly attacking said relms
It was actually the Fourth World that he shooknot our solar system.This is the equivalent of Superman rocking the entire solar system by the shockwave of the impact of his punches
That’s more of a range feat it doesn’t really affect the outcome of her shaking something speed if it’s like Beerus and Goku’s punch shockwavesThe fact that all three relms were shaken and it took less than 30 seconds for her power to reach that far?
It’s really not. The safe approximation would be to get the numbers shaking three earths since that’s the feat that actually happened and use that value. Shaking a bowling ball is different than generating enough force to crush it into pieces, the gap between the two is not really a leap you can make unless you back it up.It’s a safe approximation. This is beyond multi continental. If you wanna just cap it at Moon Level to Planetary be my guest. But it would be against common sense to say that affecting what is essentially multiple planets just by flexing your power doesn’t cross the line to Moon/Planetoid Level.
If they were actually destroyed it would be a Multi-Planet Level/Large Planet Level+ Feat in the low end. Hell we’ve gotten Star Level calcs from one character destroying one planet.Yes, they were shook they were not destroyed the massive gap between the two is the problem here especially since the mass of the atmosphere and the empty void of space are mostly unquantifiable factors when it comes to “shaking the dimension” hence why even with square inverse law you’d need to back this up with an actual calc.
Don’t try to correct me on this. Bekka said Superman rocked their entire Star System. I never said our own solar system. And it doesn’t matter if it was or not that’s not the point.It was actually the Fourth World that he shooknot our solar system.
What are you talking about? This isn’t Star Wars where The Force is everywhere so speed isn’t as much a factor when it comes to affecting certain things as rangeThat’s more of a range feat it doesn’t really affect the outcome of her shaking something speed if it’s like Beerus and Goku’s punch shockwaves
Calcs aren’t “the feat that actually happened”It’s really not. The safe approximation would be to get the numbers shaking three earths since that’s the feat that actually happened and use that value.
That's completely nonsensical. Nothing was destroyed nor did she even say that it would destroy the three worlds.If they were actually destroyed it would be a Multi-Planet Level/Large Planet Level+ Feat in the low end. Hell we’ve gotten Star Level calcs from one character destroying one planet.
So the fact that we are calling it Moon to Planet level until further notice is perfectly logical imo.
In reference to the Fourth World...Bekka lives on Apokolips, she was on Apokolips when it happened...she's even talking to Bruce now...on Apokolips.Don’t try to correct me on this. Bekka said Superman rocked their entire Star System. I never said our own solar system. And it doesn’t matter if it was or not that’s not the point.
There were no signs of a shockwave, it physically shook all realms at the same time. That's a range feat the fact that all realms are tethered to each other is further proof of that.What are you talking about? This isn’t Star Wars where The Force is everywhere so speed isn’t as much a factor when it comes to affecting certain things as range
This is her own Bankai affecting different dimensions the size of Earth. There is definitely a speed factor here
I'm not sure you understand...to register something as planet level is to say that it carries the force at least equal to blow up the earth, shaking the worlds and the mass of the atmosphere isn't the same thing. You have to actually back these things up with evidence calcs were made for this to show your work...you don't need to calc with instances like SSJ Vegeta saying he can blow up the earth because other characters can and he flat out said he could. Senjumaru didn't even say or allude to being able to destroy all worlds that's pure conjecture on your part. With Yhwach its planet level because he was merging all three worlds, see the difference?Calcs aren’t “the feat that actually happened”
You got shit backwards. Calcs give a solid number—which helps with precision. But what we’re doing is approximating the ballpark.
That is a terrible example because 1) there are calcs for all of those 2) they actually showed being MFTL where is Senjumaru neither destroyed any of the planets nor said they were going to be destroyed. Shaking them with ease and destroying them are two completely seperate things hence the bowling ball comparison, it's easy to shake a bowling ball with minimal effort but that doesn't mean you can crush one with your hands.When Superman or Silver Surfer crosses the cosmos under a year, we eyeball it as MFTL. Same with Gladiator crossing a galaxy in a blink of Hemdall’s eye. You don’t need calcs to know—they just help understand further where in the ballpark you are
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