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Soulsborne Discussion, Feats & Analysis

Atem

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DLC really establishes that you are that guy. I mean the main game is already about how you have the strength befitting an Elden Lord, but this DLC goes overboard on that plot point. Why did you even need the Fingerslayer Blade for Ranni? You murdered The Mother of Fingers. Like where do you even sit at? It is ridiculous. You are literal god slayer tier, and somehow everything goes wrong for most of your friends and/or allies. They either get killed, turned into giant balls, or you have to kill them when they go crazy. Fucking hate how little choice matters in an RPG where you are literally El Hermano.
 

OtherGalaxy

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the not being able to make any real choices is very strange in the DLC, in the base game the outcomes make somewhat more sense because you actually have a lot of agency in shaping the world and you're sort of competing with a lot of other people. From games have always kinda had the "wait why am I doing this?" aspect to some bosses and NPCs but I think the biggest storytelling flaw in this DLC is that this is the first time there is no reason we can't just side with Miquella like we did Ranni, or something like that. No clue why Miyazaki didn't make this impact the ending, since Ringed City offered an entire alternate path from the first flame in dark souls so it's not like he hasn't done it before. As weird as Miquella is we're never really given any indication he's wrong. And even if he was, we can join the god damn Frenzied Flame so why not him too???
 

OtherGalaxy

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It is actually very cool that Thiollier and Ansbach have their own, not evil, motivations to leave Miquella's fellowship and help us fight Radahn, but then why are we only allowed to side with them? I know Leda's a backstabbing nutjob but Dane, Moore, and Freyja are pretty decent people. Hornsent is fairly justified in his rage although his whole arc is kinda illustrating how we got here in the first place so I get why he would always die.
 

OtherGalaxy

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@OtherGalaxy

The Greater Will is a supermassive black hole, likely the one at the center of their galaxy.

i honestly dont even think the greater will is inside the universe, one of metyr’s items said it communicated to her from “the beyond of the microcosm”


though there’s another item saying “the beyond” is home of the fallingstar beasts, which if the black hole theory were true would mean astels and other space guys can survive in black holes
 

Atem

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Yeah, saw that too. There is even a spell that emulates a microcosm.

(http://imgur.com/a/BXDKJiz)
 

OtherGalaxy

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one other reason I don’t think the Beyond is in the universe is because iirc one of the big sorcerors of the Primeval Current was able to look into the starless void and the primeval current doesn’t seem to be separate from the universe/microcosm?
 

Atem

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The microcosm model also has a black hole in the middle of it. It seems, if it is accurate, the Greater Will is a cartoonishly big black hole at the center of the universe.

Which makes me think the Frenzied Flame is a Gamma Ray Burst that happened when a sun collided with it.