ya but melkor looks bad in general to people, as gad pointed out himself. i dont really lean one way or another on him myself, but he often states things that look scummy.This is absolute LHF trite
what do you think of gad?
ya but melkor looks bad in general to people, as gad pointed out himself. i dont really lean one way or another on him myself, but he often states things that look scummy.This is absolute LHF trite
FTR, Either Ratchet is town and presumably has a genuine read on Mango, or Ratchet is TMIing Mango. I don't think the interactions are w/w between the two, specifically Mango just sitting back and letting Ratchet defend him, while at the same time saying it blatnetly in thread that he thought Ratchet was his lawyer. Either way Mango is probably just town here.which misunderstandings do you think could easily be grounds for a case down the line? youre not as familiar to me as ratchet is. im not one to be unclear of my stances/reads on players. if i dont think youre scum no one is going to go back and pick up some obsecure thing to state that i thought you were somehow being scummy.
he's nitpicking to attack me. he just stated that himself. he's also misrepresenting the conversation unless you would prefer to deny that you felt he was all in all defending you/clearing up misunderstandings of yourself.
Real quick, you seem to think that Ratchet is town from the later pages. What changed from this post as opposed to later, in which you openly said you think Ratchet is town?I don't clear Ratchet based of him clearing me BTW, he could just as well do this as scum where he is banking on my support.
Pretty sure he's done this plenty before.
While he usually see right through me, I find it difficult to do in return.
No, I find myself agreeing with Ratchet's presented PoV here.which misunderstandings do you think could easily be grounds for a case down the line? youre not as familiar to me as ratchet is. im not one to be unclear of my stances/reads on players. if i dont think youre scum no one is going to go back and pick up some obsecure thing to state that i thought you were somehow being scummy.
he's nitpicking to attack me. he just stated that himself. he's also misrepresenting the conversation unless you would prefer to deny that you felt he was all in all defending you/clearing up misunderstandings of yourself.
So apparently we've run into a semantics problem
@Lord Melkor clear what your intent up was
reading ratchets posts on this is like eating chalk while doing whippets
Is this a wrongful interpretation of what you were originally saying?
Because I don't like these subtle shades you're throwing so early when Mel is usually a self-resolving slot and him being auto scum read by the majority of players makes him a prime lynch candidate. It's easy.And what about it don't you like?
(Also, the one person wagon. Why are you so quick to instantly say you hate the wagon?)
Just saying that his progression on Magic doesn't seem to be scum motivated.Real quick, you seem to think that Ratchet is town from the later pages. What changed from this post as opposed to later, in which you openly said you think Ratchet is town?
i didnt attribute your actions as a defense, mango did. i specifically said i wasn't sussing him so he wouldn't think i was/that you were being his lawyer defending him. ergo i never stated you were defending him because i didnt think there was anything for you to defend him from. if anything i think youre defending yourself as, im sure you know, suggesting you could be the one buddying him would mean it's more likely that you're the one i could see as scum in this scenario and not himself.You said I was "up in arms" because I questioned what your point even was, attributing my actions to defence instead of what they were - questioning you. Has nothing to do with what Mango was saying at all.
not sure.So, do you think Ratchet is a wolf?
i did! i have no idea who that player is but ill be interested on their arrival and thoughts after during their lunch break!Didn't you instantly vote somebody else though?
Like, why are you choosing not to vote Ratchet(Despite presumably thinking they're evil) and instead keeping a page 2 RVS vote?
No take yet. Need more from gadya but melkor looks bad in general to people, as gad pointed out himself. i dont really lean one way or another on him myself, but he often states things that look scummy.
what do you think of gad?
i concur!FTR, Either Ratchet is town and presumably has a genuine read on Mango, or Ratchet is TMIing Mango. I don't think the interactions are w/w between the two, specifically Mango just sitting back and letting Ratchet defend him, while at the same time saying it blatnetly in thread that he thought Ratchet was his lawyer. Either way Mango is probably just town here.
he was the first that pointed out melkor often appearing scummy to people to luka when luka was pushing melkor. it was a defense of melkor from luka.No take yet. Need more from gad
Is there anything in particular I was not attuned to and missed?
Well, to clarify, the case revolved around me so of course Ratchet speaking up against your angle is a defense - surei didnt attribute your actions as a defense, mango did. i specifically said i wasn't sussing him so he wouldn't think i was/that you were being his lawyer defending him. ergo i never stated you were defending him because i didnt think there was anything for you to defend him from. if anything i think youre defending yourself as, im sure you know, suggesting you could be the one buddying him would mean it's more likely that you're the one i could see as scum in this scenario and not himself.
again you're explicitly ignoring context which is pretty plain.
Did you see Ruffles' reply?i didnt attribute your actions as a defense, mango did. i specifically said i wasn't sussing him so he wouldn't think i was/that you were being his lawyer defending him. ergo i never stated you were defending him because i didnt think there was anything for you to defend him from. if anything i think youre defending yourself as, im sure you know, suggesting you could be the one buddying him would mean it's more likely that you're the one i could see as scum in this scenario and not himself.
again you're explicitly ignoring context which is pretty plain.
not sure.
i did! i have no idea who that player is but ill be interested on their arrival and thoughts after during their lunch break!
because i prefer my vote where it is. having a thunderdome with ratchet is not really a productive use of my time in a 26 player game. im not sure what his alignment is and it could lead to a mess of a day 1. it might anyway!
Going backhe was the first that pointed out melkor often appearing scummy to people to luka when luka was pushing melkor. it was a defense of melkor from luka.
i can assure you there was nothing disingenious about my point and it was pretty spot on. what ratchet was doing is much more likely to be buddying than what melkor was doing as buddying.No, I find myself agreeing with Ratchet's presented PoV here.
I don't think he's defending me to defend me, but rather he is pointing out the flaw of your basis for this discussion - that you have chosen to take an arguably disingenious angle to push a discussion - at least to give you benefit of the doubt that what you're doing here is not malicious.
Firstly, your words, not Mango's:i didnt attribute your actions as a defense, mango did. i specifically said i wasn't sussing him so he wouldn't think i was/that you were being his lawyer defending him. ergo i never stated you were defending him because i didnt think there was anything for you to defend him from. if anything i think youre defending yourself as, im sure you know, suggesting you could be the one buddying him would mean it's more likely that you're the one i could see as scum in this scenario and not himself.
again you're explicitly ignoring context which is pretty plain.
You make this response from a gif Mango posted. Between that, and your screed where you unprompted tell Mango to be wary of town reading me, feel like a clear attempt to set the stage here. You don't get to say "well, I never said you were defending him, because in the post I quoted, you are clearly presenting the defence as undue. Doesn't make any sense otherwise.we're back to square 1 of what i said about what appeared to be more likely to be buddying lol.
i was never accusing you yet he's up in arms over it. you think he's defending you when you were never being sussed.
Vote Nipples
Funny, I'm dealing with a massive shit storm
This take too spicy for Retro
No one pings me as weird just yet. Fang does seem a little more jokey this game and idr if that's town or scum tell for him
Probably town
I doubt they wrote it pre-game.
And no, idk if I'll call anyone town or scum just yet
Fang's post was the only one that I really even noticed.
Wtf how many posts have I just wound up not fully digestingI know it does but that's... just how Melkor rolls
Firstly, your words, not Mango's:
You make this response from a gif Mango posted. Between that, and your screed where you unprompted tell Mango to be wary of town reading me, feel like a clear attempt to set the stage here. You don't get to say "well, I never said you were defending him, because in the post I quoted, you are clearly presenting the defence as undue. Doesn't make any sense otherwise.
Greasy!
Just saying that his progression on Magic doesn't seem to be scum motivated.
I am inclined to believe it comes from a Town PoV, however as stated previously I am wary of clearing Ratchet, especially this early.
But my vibes are telling me that he doesn't operate under scum agenda - at least for the time being.