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Game Ranked Tower of God Mafia Thread

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Ratchet said:
I'll need to fact check this, but I'm pretty sure Ultra was never actually leading? I suppose in the couple of minutes it took between Melkor claiming and me counter claiming, the invites from Melkor might have put him over there, but otherwise I don't see it. And in that case, it's pretty disingenuous to use that as evidence of some consensus to claim here. Can we please at least get more than 3 people opening before deciding it's enough to warrant a claim. We've had 4 today alone.
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Go fact check it right now then, thanks. As I'm sure he was as he had gotten over half majority and melkor hadn't.
 
Ratchet said:
I'll need to fact check this, but I'm pretty sure Ultra was never actually leading? I suppose in the couple of minutes it took between Melkor claiming and me counter claiming, the invites from Melkor might have put him over there, but otherwise I don't see it. And in that case, it's pretty disingenuous to use that as evidence of some consensus to claim here. Can we please at least get more than 3 people opening before deciding it's enough to warrant a claim. We've had 4 today alone.
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I think ultra should claim. If I have to vote I will
 
Hans Tweetenberg said:
That's the point though, what sense does it make for me to bus Gad to start this phase? Or even randomly vote the guy only to pivot at the first opportunity which is what you may end up portraying it as?
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Goalpost moving - the point is that Gad being in my suspect list doesn't mutually exclude you

What's scummy here is you're implying my read on Gad must be fixed and I am forced to base my worldview around it even when you're playing like shit, and coming from you specifically, I think it looks bad.
 
Magic said:
I didn't all of day 1 but at this point I'm annoyed and you more than anyone should understand why. You guys make it harder than it should be to go after people that should be in bad spots. Ultra despite being better as town than most is getting a pass for bad reads. Not with living players but dead ones. He's presenting the melkor situation as one that makes me scummy yet also suggested I was scummy when we thought melkor was going to be scum.
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The primary read you’re using as bad against him is his read on you

If you’re town, the rest of us don’t have that.

The Melkor read, lots of people were on that who consider theirselves decent players. I’m not going to cut his head off for that alone. The Fang read was like a drop in the bucket of his D1

At the point in the game, I don’t think he’s been irreconcilably bad for temporarily reading Fang as scum and Melkor as scum. I’ve seen him have some incorrect reads as town and not immediately hand over scum day 1 if you would actually believe it.

What I’m saying is, you’re treating several points as indisputable evidence that he’s scum that aren’t near the grand slams you are acting like they are at this point
 
Magic said:
Go fact check it right now then, thanks. As I'm sure he was as he had gotten over half majority and melkor hadn't.
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I just counted from VC 11, at one point Mslkor had 8 votes and Ultra 6. Then Melkor goes back down, Ultra moves his vote which puts Melkor below him, Ultra moves to 7 with Ichigo's vote and I counterclaim. Melkor goes back up. Ultra was at half majority for about 5 minutes tops.

Can you evidence your timeline please?
 
Ratchet said:
I'll need to fact check this, but I'm pretty sure Ultra was never actually leading? I suppose in the couple of minutes it took between Melkor claiming and me counter claiming, the invites from Melkor might have put him over there, but otherwise I don't see it. And in that case, it's pretty disingenuous to use that as evidence of some consensus to claim here. Can we please at least get more than 3 people opening before deciding it's enough to warrant a claim. We've had 4 today alone.
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Ultra was leading like 4-3 I think at one point between Fang and Melkor taking over
 
Emil said:
no scum reads. just ppl i dont think r towning enough
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^I didn't read beyond this point as I figured there probably wouldn't be much material, but if someone wants to go ahead, please do so
Emil said:
i can see melkor being scum, but not very convinced on it. if he has a strong claim he's already hinted it so might wanna just go ahead and give it

im ok with pressuring cubey tpein or missingno to post or claim if they arent gonna provide anything threadwise

gad/watson/rugrat/tweet need to play more

there r too many slots floating in nulls for reads to progress, cant be of much help day 1
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These are Ekko's persons of interest aside from Ultra
Emil said:
hes flipped town in almost every time he did this tho?

the one time he was scum in xmas i was his teammate so i didnt have to rly solve for him. i'll defer this to someone else who was town that game
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^Grams playstyle
Emil said:
yeah and had like 10 posts of reading the first 3 pages of the game only for it to be hammered and end b4 i could do anything. im not qualified to judge that at all

every time gram is scum im either a teammate or the host

if he's scum here he's buddying with magic to certain degree. i cant rly judge fully until we have proper content from all the players and see grams interactions with them. what u r doing is just guessing, not casing
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^Gram
Emil said:
weak town thats trending down. similar boat to watson
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^Refrencing Rugrat
Emil said:
how come u letting me carry scum magic like that?
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^Response to Ultra, I know this was a hypothetical and not Ekko actually calling Magic scum. Not trying to paint that picture.
 
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