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Game Ranked Tower of God Mafia Thread

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Grammaton said:
I don’t think of ultras play as bad so much as dishonest, that’s your take on it.

I cant empathise with his pov day 1, I dont think he is holding ratchet to any kind of account and I dont think his decision to track you holds any water

I felt his play outside of you day 1 was fine, and I think you oversold his position on Aurelian
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Well that is fair and I can agree with that lol. It's hard to justify their positions on one another being as strong as they are.

In regards to aurelian I linked a bunch of posts from that avatar game that were near identical to his apathy this game and he didn't look at them while stating I was being too firm in calling aurelian town from it. I also don't think it checks out for him to follow his own biggest scum read without at least changing position on said scum read
 
Grammaton said:
I don’t think of ultras play as bad so much as dishonest, that’s your take on it.

I cant empathise with his pov day 1, I dont think he is holding ratchet to any kind of account and I dont think his decision to track you holds any water

I felt his play outside of you day 1 was fine, and I think you oversold his position on Aurelian
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To be blunt, why do you expect me to do this? Because by my account all of his arguments have been pretty fucking solid, if he is Indi and playing to his own benefit, then I'm really not too concerned about a runaway here.

I'll grant you thinking I wouldn't track Magic, from your perspective and how you handle roles, but the above doesn't really jive with me, because I will fucking take it if this is all I can get
 
her posts felt natural reading them live but in retrospect she's really just drilled down on resolving ratchet and clearly isn't paying attention to the game and when gaps in her knowledge are pointed out she just brushes it off and insists on lynching ratchet. At one point ratchet raises a decent point asking why ichigo didn't shoot him and we have this exchange:
Ratchet said:
Also, why didn't Ichigo shoot me last night? After Melkor flipped town?
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Ratchet said:
This just came to mind, in what world do you see that, act on this basis, and have shot an inactive PoE slot over someone you think is fake claiming?
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Psychic said:
Why are you hoping on the Sig wagon when you said Ichigo was the one who killed Cubey.
I don't like that you're voting the highest wagon, makes you look more sus.

Vote lynch Ratchet

Let's find out what color Ratchet bleeds and end this discussion for town already.
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Ratchet said:
I was voting Sig beforehand. I just explained why in that post.
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Psychic said:
This is a good point actually.

@Ichigo?
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okay psychic recognizes the point and tags ichigo for a response.
Psychic said:
Because Ichigo knows he is a back up vig, that's why he is sus of Ratchet from the start.
Ichigo also never denied that he didn't shoot Cubey, just disappeared.
I want to see what color Ratchet bleeds, I dont want another "why is there two vigs" discussion next day phase.
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Psychic said:
Ratchet might be mafia, he already explained that he wouldn't draw attention to himself with a vig claim if he was SK.

Same reason you all are refusing to lynch Ratchet right now after he cc vig and vig clearly died. Look I know ratchet is a good player, but he needs to be resolved.
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then suddenly she's back to fully believing in ichigo and chastizing people for not lynching ratchet
 
obviously she's spacey and I don't expect attention to detail from her, but it does feel like she's forcing herself into a direction and forgetting her own possibly fake moments of reservation
 
Like if anything I think Ratchet has been a bit coy about pressing Magic too hard from the get go, he's speaking the truth but has delayed his inevitable conclusion, which could make sense from the perspective of wanting to play both sides, but right now I'd rather prioritize hitting scum
 
Tempest said:
her posts felt natural reading them live but in retrospect she's really just drilled down on resolving ratchet and clearly isn't paying attention to the game and when gaps in her knowledge are pointed out she just brushes it off and insists on lynching ratchet. At one point ratchet raises a decent point asking why ichigo didn't shoot him and we have this exchange:









okay psychic recognizes the point and tags ichigo for a response.



then suddenly she's back to fully believing in ichigo and chastizing people for not lynching ratchet
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lol the second guessing/asking Ichigo on that and then immediately throwing it back out the door without answer to continue doubling down is not a good look
 
Tempest said:
her posts felt natural reading them live but in retrospect she's really just drilled down on resolving ratchet and clearly isn't paying attention to the game and when gaps in her knowledge are pointed out she just brushes it off and insists on lynching ratchet. At one point ratchet raises a decent point asking why ichigo didn't shoot him and we have this exchange:









okay psychic recognizes the point and tags ichigo for a response.



then suddenly she's back to fully believing in ichigo and chastizing people for not lynching ratchet
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I’m gonna be brave and maybe look a little stupid - I don’t think she gets anything as scum for focusing on ratchet. Say what you like about her but she does have a survivors instinct in these games - she started by attacking me for my position and iirc, she was passively defending ratchet there. Just looks too incongruous to me
 
The problem with Psychic is I can see her playing ingenuine as town, bc I think she just inherently would like to lynch Ratchet out of semi spite (maybe not the exact right word but generally the same)
 
Boobies said:
Like if anything I think Ratchet has been a bit coy about pressing Magic too hard from the get go, he's speaking the truth but has delayed his inevitable conclusion, which could make sense from the perspective of wanting to play both sides, but right now I'd rather prioritize hitting scum
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What if he is scum?!
 
I think she’s that way around Ultra too so would think she’d typically be pretty happy/hungry just jumping on the Ultra wagon.

If Ultra is scum, something to consider
 
Is anyone tracking claims? We have a shit ton of vts.

Nothing suggests there's duplicates in this game, which we're aware of I'm just trying to understand the long term plan here.
 
Magic said:
Is anyone tracking claims? We have a shit ton of vts.

Nothing suggests there's duplicates in this game, which we're aware of I'm just trying to understand the long term plan here.
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Yoho, CP, Gad - VT

Jag - Gunsmirh

You/Gram - Mason

Ultra - tracker

Polar - redirect

Lind - miller

Ratchet - serial killer (vig)

Ichigo - universal back up who got a vig shot

T-Pein - bullet proof

Reloaded - healer

No claim from Psychic, Lethal, Luka, me
 
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