So, something weird to discuss today
I have found absolute concrete evidence that Unicron was stated to be destabilizing the omniverse and clarification on Transformers having 'countless dimensions' in it
the catch
it's from an unused pitch Furman did for his Cybertron followup comic, and is thus non-canon
(
Shout out to this person who reached out to me on another site and reminded me of Furman's Cybertron pitch)
BUT
we just learned sometimes this unused material still counts as canon earlier. Let's revisit and see what Vector says specifically about this
For reference here is the quote again
So it's slightly ambiguous, but we know these things can be "true and accurate conclusions" or "microcontinuities" (from a VS perspective, these are the branching parallel universes off the originals). Or absent from the multiverse. Let's examine Furman's pitch to see if there's any validity here, and what we can learn from it.
Right off the bat Furman references the end of his Energon comics, where Unicron is wrecked by seismic charges. These were never published, but
are canon via AVP. The next few paragraphs here line up with what we know from Cybertron/Galaxy Force as well as their tie-in comics. The highlighted red is where things get interesting. Transcribed below.
While the Botcon script can be criticized as vague for its 'countless dimension' statement (though I disagree, doesn't make sense to list three items but the first two are the same) this one...really can't be interpreted that way. Realities are full-stop, universes. If Unicron can only be in one at a time but exists across countless dimensions, then those dimensions obviously are
not realities/timelines/universes etc. While the concept has been played with a lot and the weird acausal nature of the character makes it hard to understand, most material of the period depicted Unicron as popping into Unspace to observe universes that it would then enter and consume. One at a time
from its perspective but not to anyone else because...he's outside time. This is clearly not talking about that, it's stating he exists in one universe while his "greater" existence extends further. Furman also wrote both Universe and its botcon scripts, as well as this pitch.
Additionally, the idea of all Unicrons being one actually originates from a word of god statement Furman gave in an interview in OTFCC #1.
Basically I think this entire pitch, given it near fully lines up with the known canon, is at worst still usable as word of god statements. It also helps that this is really the most comprehensive explanation of what the Unicron Singularity/Grand Black Hole is actually
doing, even more clear than TFCC's Balancing Act is.
However, that's not all.
Where have we heard of Unicron being a threat to the omniverse before?
Primeval Dawn, which was not even written by Furman, yet aligns with this. The omniversal structure. Doesn't get more clear than that. The omniverse itself was also stated to possess "uncountable infinities" beyond the multiverse...and even a single universe in
that has an "uncountable infinity" of branch universe.
There is also the bizarre planet Sandra "feat"
Where we already know even destroying one Cybertron can cause damage that extends all the way into the omniverse and can warp and fuse other local universes together. Is it really that ridiculous that the Singularity destroying countless universes and Cybertrons would not have similar, if not even worse effects, due to the more fundamental way Unicron destroys things? Omniverse has also never been used synonymously in Transformers with the main multiverse to my knowledge.
This is also backed up by Balancing Act, though some details were either changed or eschewed. Ramjet tries to convince Vector to help revive Unicron due to the balance of good and evil destroying everything. The Decepticon Matrix kills a Cybertron. We just are never shown how Ramjet got said Matrix (especially given all Unicrons are "dead" at that point in the comic). This also explains much more clearly how Unicron being 'evil' itself ruins existence if he's gone (though he was still sort of alive because he can't actually die, and Ramjet also says evil still exists but also that it's out of balance etc. it's weird)
If it were any other series I would not advocate for using something unpublished at all, but this is the one series with a fucked up enough canon to
actually say unpublished stuff is real. At the very least I think it's usable as word of god explanations for how the singularity works. The only thing that actually directly contradicts anything is where it goes into Dreamwave's cybertron being destroyed (it says G1 but Furman specifies it's War Within G1 i.e. DreamWave) but...that may not actually be a contradiction at all? As Dreamwave was cancelled (fuck you Pat Lee), there's nothing conflicting with this, and Furman even called it a "short lived bubble universe" in Transformers: Earth Wars. This would certainly explain why it's "short-lived" lol
Thoughts?
@Crimson Dragoon @Blade @Qinglong I think there's still enough evidence even without this, but this is way clearer and lines up with the bulk of what Furman put in past stories like Universe 2003 and his Armada/Energon comics.