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Trigger needs to do a Marvel animated universe.
 
Doronbo_Shirake said:
Trigger needs to do a Marvel animated universe.
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This is something I've been hoping they'd make for ages too (both Imaishi and Amemiya at least are fans of the Marvel comics, with there being a very subtle reference to World War Hulk in KLK's second ending). Given Gridman (which started as a short) and Delicious in Dungeon (which started as an ad for the manga), this may actually be a possibility (though hopefully we'll get a Shantae anime by Yoh Yohsinari too)...
 
We see multiple of the Parallel Works universes when Yoko is observing the possibilities (from The Lights in the Sky are Stars).


 
When Simon is thrown into the Labyrinth, we see many alternate versions of him. This is the case in the show (which is within the Anti-Spiral's pocket universe) and in the movie (which is somewhere else in the cosmos).
 
Information on New PSG as seen on the official New PSG website! Daten City is located on the fault line between Heaven and Hell. Ghosts are born from human desires & emotions, and are banished by a light beyond human comprehension by the Anarchy Sisters.

New PANTY & STOCKING with GARTERBELT

ビッチ天使が還ってきた!! 今石洋之×TRIGGERによる新作アニメーション『New PANTY & STOCKING with GARTERBELT』2025年スタート！
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Panty is the elder sister while Stocking is the younger sister.
The younger sister, banished to Earth along with her sister Panty.
A goth girl with straight bangs and ultra-long hair.
She fights by transforming her worn stockings into two katana-shaped heavenly weapons, ＜Stripe I & II＞.
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Scanty & Kneesocks are d(a)emons from the demon world, come to restore order in the earthly realm.
Fastener is a familiar spirit who accompanies the Daemon Sisters.
 
The movie version of the story has the isolated universe and the Anti-Spiral pocket dimension be two different things (this is the only version of the story where this is the case).
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Good news good people! I have read volume 13 of Delicious in Dungeon! There is things ramp up, with there finally being some significant hax & durability!
We can see once again that the interior of the dungeon is bigger on the insides as it is on the outsides, being big enough to contain distant mountains. The Winged Lion merges all of the monsters together in Marcilles army (except the Quetzacouatl, which is still circling above the island), and turns into a colossal kaiju-sized monstrousity big enough to swallow a large stone tower whole.

Laios replaces Marcille as the Lord of the Dungeon, and he wishes for the Winged Lion and the other demons to not meddle with humans ('humans' meaning all sorts of people, tallmen, elves, dwarves, etc). However, the Winged Lion is able to worm his way around this, by seeing the truest desire of Laios; to become the ultimate monster. In return, the Winged Lion takes possession of Laios' body, while Laios turns into a colossal monster which he imagined.

We learn the history of the demon(s). The original entities which would later become known as demons had no will or thoughts of their own, and existed only as tiny specks. These specks began interacting with the insects, and attached to them, and eventually, began to feed on the insects desires. There's also what may be a 4th wall break here; an insect is thinking how it wants to eat, and the demon devours the thought/speech bubble. The demons eventually discover people (and vice versa). However, the demon(s) cannot keep their source of food alive, as once they devour their souls they're gone.

Humans lock the demons into dungeons to prevent them from freely using their magic. However, the demon(s) will still grant wishes to anyone who reaches them/it at the bottom of the dungeon. One day, a man wished for the demon to destroy the world, which the demon obliged (in this context, meaning wipe out all civilization on the surface). The demon(s) began to starve, but eventually, survivors returned, and the demon(s) learned how next time better to cultivate the desires of people to feast on them forever.

Demons are noted to be organs of the power from the infinite world designed to understand the language of magic. Demons have formed from human desires, so they only understand what humans are telling them as opposed to when they first arrives (although, it still is possible that there are demons for other species).

When in Laios' body, the Winged Lion regenerates from having his/its head cut off by Izutsumi and blasted by a fire explosion by Marcille, which only annoys him/it (they even note how the Laos demon isn't even scratched). Mithrun is able to physically force the Laios demon to the ground however. Demon Laios is able to freeze everyone except Laios' party in time, and when he/it reaches the surface, the Laios Demon uses one finger to split open the sky, causing hands from the world of infinity to start dragging people away to feast on their desires forever (the only exception being Laios' party, as that was part of Laios' wish).

The Ultimate Strongest Monster is (with the possible exception of the monster mentioned in the monster tales that Sissel created, but starved as it required 3 blue whale souls every half an hour to survive) the most powerful monster in the series, being 100m tall, capable of flying around 300km/h, it's poop forming forests and more. It's claws penetrate Demon Laios, and even after being swallowed whole by the Quetzacouatl, it slices the great wyrm open from the insides.

In response, the Laios Demon starts duplicating endlessly and attacking the Ultimate Strongest Monster, while the Ultimate Strongest Monster starts eating all the Demon Laios'. It seems that the demon will win. However, Laios has made a final update to his ultimate monster (which may or may not have been part of the plan to defeat the Winged Lion); the Ultimate Strongest Monster has the power to eat desires.

Laios eats the Winged Lions appetite (the first thing it ever gained in the finite world), and as such, the demon(s) begin to fade from the finite world. Before it disappears though, the Winged Lion curses Laios, saying that his greatest desire (to rescue Falin) will never be granted...
 
Lucy will appear as a playable character in Guilty Gear Strive season 4 pass! Although certainly non-canon, this will make Lucy the most powerful Cyberpunk character by a colossal margin.
(Also as a footnote, ArcSystems made Kill La Kill If, or at least published/distributed it, so maybe they'll make another fully Trigger game.)
 
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At the start of Childhood's End, we see a strange multi-dimensional geometric pattern before zooming in on the Universe.

This same multi-dimensional structure/region/expanse is seen in The Lights in the Sky Are Stars, when Simon & co. escape the Multiversal Labyrinth.
 
An interview with Ken Miyauchi, the producer of Guilty Gear Strive. When asking why Lucy was decided for the guest character for Strive, Ken Miyauchi says that Guilty Gears lead artist (Hidehiko Sakamura) is a big fan of The Witcher, and thus got into discussions with CD Project Red, which lead to the decision to have Lucy from Cyberpunk Edgerunners in the game.

Guilty Gear Strive Producer Talks Lucy From Cyberpunk Edgerunners - Evo 2024 - IGN

At Evo 2024, Arc System Works made perhaps their biggest announcement involving Guilty Gear Strive to date: Lucy from Cyberpunk Edgerunners. I got a chance to catch up with Guilty Gear Strive Producer Ken Miyauchi to find out how this surprising collaboration came to be, along with getting some...
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As for why Lucy was chosen over David, the exact reasoning has yet to be revealed, as that will spoil what they're trying to do, though he hopes people will figure it out in the future (this could also mean that Lucy might feature in the story, and thus have Guilty Gear scaling apply to her).
ArcSystems is collaborating through CD Project Red rather than Trigger, but they would be open to and like to collaborate with Trigger given the chance.
Even though this is certainly non-canon, I will follow this story with great interest as it develops!
 
Recovering what was almost lost... The episode description for episode 12 (the first half of episode 6) of PSG says that the sisters battle escalates into one where the survival of the universe is at stake.

第十二話「トランスホーム」&第十三話「現金に裸体を張れ」 - Panty&Stocking; with Garterbelt制作ブログ「Daten City Journal」

第十二話「トランスホーム」 姉妹ゲンカにあけくれるパンスト姉妹。 そんな二人の様子をみて、仲直りして...
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Each galaxy!universe in the Anti-Spiral dimension is its own multiverse, right? It would contain all time and thus all infinite timelines within that universe?

Also I want to add to my old writeup for tiering Simon for the death battle I have this for SGGL:

Okay, to fully understand the scale of Simon’s power, I will first jump to Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann (SGGL for short) because everything below it wouldn’t be too relevant in the fight


https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:GreatIskandar14045/We're_gonna_show_you_the_power...of_the_human_race_(Gurren_Lagann)

The Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann was able to destroy the Ashtanga at every point in time, or at least across 1e+68 points in time. It was calculated out to equal 4.42e+95 joules of energy, or ~1500 times above universe level

However this isn’t the full limit of the SGGL, according to Gurren Lagann novelization - Volume 4:

- シ モ ン が レ バ ー を 握 り し め た。身体 中 の 細胞 が 悲鳴 を 上 げ て い た. 細胞 一 つ 一 つ の 中 で 新 し い 宇宙 が 誕生 す る. そ の エ ネ ル ギ ー を 全神 経 を 使 っ て グ レ ン ラ ガ ン に 注 ぎ 込 む. 言葉 に す る な ら ば そ う い う イ メ ー ジ だ っ た. 超 銀河 ダ イ グ レ ン が 加速 し た。 "

"Simon pressed the lever. Every cell in his body screamed. Within each cell a new universe is born. That energy would pour into Gurren Lagann using all his nerves. That was the image in his head. The Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren sped up. "

https://www.livescience.com/health/anatomy/how-many-cells-are-in-the-human-body-new-study-provides-an-answer#:~:text=According to a new analysis,children have about 17 trillion.

“According to a new analysis of more than 1,500 papers, the average adult male human has around 36 trillion cells — that's 36 followed by 12 zeros”

There’s about 36 trillion cells in the human body, that mean Simon and the SGGL are around 36 trillion times above big bang level
 
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Maddie said:
Each galaxy!universe in the Anti-Spiral dimension is its own multiverse, right? It would contain all time and thus all infinite timelines within that universe?
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Probably not I'm afraid (the galaxies seem to refer to the different universes getting sucked into the Super Giga Drills). However; there is a chance that the Anti-Spiral dimension is in itself composed of many alternate universes (when Simon is sent into the Multiversal Labyrinth.

Trigger-verse feats, lore & respect discussion

Hiroyuki Imaishi has designed an official Venom figure! Not only is this not the first time that someone from Trigger has designed an official Marvel figure, this is not even the first time someone at Trigger has designed a Spiderman figure. Akira Amemiya has also designed an official model...
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Trigger-verse feats, lore & respect discussion

Hiroyuki Imaishi has designed an official Venom figure! Not only is this not the first time that someone from Trigger has designed an official Marvel figure, this is not even the first time someone at Trigger has designed a Spiderman figure. Akira Amemiya has also designed an official model...
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(Also there is another Gurren Lagann book I've got my eyes on which will hopefully have more information, but it sold just when I had enough money to buy it. XP I'll eventually track it down, don't worry.)
 
I forgot if you analyzed the writeup I made long ago, here it is

Gurenn Lagann Writeup

This is for whenever you want to debate Simon the Digger or the Anti-Spiral versus whatever matchup you want. It will be the most concise explanation of their power levels. There exists many cosmology and lore blogs but they are a bit all over the place: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gurren...
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what could I add perhaps?

When I wrote that post I actually forgot I made the writeup. I explain why I think every galaxy in the anti spiral realm is actually a full on quantum universe. In brane cosmology a big bang occurs when two 10-D branes collide... Sounds familiar?

I don't know if each branespace is its own MWI quantum Multiverse, but if it is, wow.
 
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