"This is how I'm thinking of it in my head" is pretty clearly saying it isnt actually happening.
Simon was also shown to have cosmic awareness and be able to see things across space during this sequence.
Yes.....infinitely universal.
It's already shown to affect more than a single dimension, so it's very clearly multiversal.
No it doesn't. It says "universes are born in each of his cells" before calling it a mental image. Even if it were real it doesnt make any reference to "lower worlds"
Showing a picture of someone not in the Labryinth standing among people who are in the Labryinth while they stare blankly into space while still physically being present is not the best argument for "the universes physically exist"
Yes, because they are force to observe the possibilities of all of their other versions in all the other multiverses which traps them in the Labyrinth. It even makes a point that the multiverse returns to its natural state afterwares, something that would not happen if the universes were not real.
(Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is a virtual quantum body created by the stratification of the multiverse by the activation of Super Spiral Power. It disappeared when the battle ended and returned to its normal state.)
Here is Kazuki Nakashima confirming that the universes become fixed when observed.
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『ニンジャバットマン』はバットマンが戦国時代に飛ばされるといういわゆる「時間もの」です。日本のアニメだと、「過去を変えると現在が変わってしまう」という制約があって、時間もの、時間改変ものだとすごく慎重になる傾向があるように思います。そういうことを気にせず、思い切ってやっていますね。
中島：そこはアメコミなので。アメコミにはマルチバース、つまり宇宙がいっぱいあるという世界観の設定が読者にも浸透しています。そして今、時間改変ものはすなわち多元宇宙ものになるんですよね。あらゆる可能性の宇宙が全部あるってことだから、何をやっても「そっちの宇宙ね」となる（笑）。多元宇宙の解釈がこの何十年かでどっと進んで、僕らが子どものときは4次元止まりだったのが今では11次元とかって言われているじゃないですか。こちらは嘘をつくのが仕事なので、そういう理論を曲解して、面白い方に転がしていく。
そういえば『天元突破グレンラガン』（以下、『グレンラガン』）で、「観測されることによって存在する量子宇宙論」という話がありました。
中島：あの当時、宇宙論を調べると、しばらく読んでなかったからすごく進んでいることがわかりました。「観測されれば初めて確定される」という理論をいただいて、認識すればできる宇宙があるという設定にしました。
"Ninja Batman" is a so-called "time thing" in which Batman is transported to the Warring States period. In Japanese anime, there's a restriction that if you change the past, the present will change, and I think people tend to be very cautious when it comes to time-altered anime. You don't worry about that kind of thing, and you go out on a limb.
Nakashima: That's because it's American comics. The world setting of the multiverse, or a world full of universes, permeates the readership of American comics. And now, the time-modifying stuff is going to be the multiverse stuff, right? There's a whole universe of all kinds of possibilities, so no matter what you do, you're like, "Oh, that universe!" (laughs). The interpretation of the multiverse has advanced so rapidly in the last few decades that when we were children, it was only 4-Dimensional, but now it is said to be 11-Dimensional. Our job is to tell lies, so we take those theories and twist them into something interesting.
Come to think of it, in "Gurren Lagann", there was a story about "quantum cosmology that exists by being observed".
Nakashima: When I looked up cosmology at that time, I hadn't read it for a while, so I found that it was very advanced. I was given the theory that the universe can be confirmed only if it is observed, and I set up the idea that there is a universe that can be created if we recognize it."
And again, actually address the quantum physics that the Anti-Spiral is refering to on that observing the possibilities makes them real. Team Dai-Gurren being forced to observe themselves in all other possibilities does not contradict that these other possibilities are very explicitly real when that is how the trap works in the first place.
Then it's not "separate". It's one of the possibilities the Anti-Spiral referred to as "universes"
So you're going to ignore that it's repeatedly and explicitly confirmed to be another multiverse, along with the many other statements from countless other sources which go out of their way to all describe different multiverses.
First off, if you know any series that has used this logic to get to megaversal or higher I'd like to know because I'd happily challenge them on it as well.
In terms of there being different multiverses that make up a megaverse? Literally every single other series that's been called megaversal.
Second, the concepts are not being dismissed outright. Im just saying it doesn't go past infinite multi because it's still just a collection of universes.
An explicitly higher realm within which multiple completely separate and distinct multiverses exist separately.
Just "multiple multiverses" isnt enough, there has to be something beyond those.
That's the first time I've ever heard of it. Every other time I've seen megaversal come up, all that's needed is different multiverses. I've never seen higher realms being needed any other time.
And if that is the case we can very clearly see that Otoko alone is an explicitly higher realm to Avant's universe, which in turn we can see how the Otoko multiverse and all the other multiverses are just points in a starfield from the perspective of the Anti-Spiral. Said multiverses were explicitly called multiverses by every source from Gurren Lagann's release to today, and in the case of Otoko have their own completely seperate laws of physics.
.......my guy, thats an interview talking about the concept behind the multiverse story. It doesnt say anything about the internal mechanics of the series.
Yes it does, one which flat up says that
infinite possibilities will leave someone frozen, with that very explicitly being applied to the Labyrinth. They are frozen because they are forced to observe infinite other possibilities, which then branch into infinite more
Also both anecdotes end with "once you make a choice thats the only truth of your universe"
Because Simon escaped the trap of the Labyrinth and chose his own path, which represents him not getting lost in the could have beens or might have beens.
Except they are, as described by the Anti-Spiral. Even without Death of the Author being a hard rule here, anecdotes about choice paralysis wouldn't override that.
Also it totally collapsed on itself during the STTGL GDB clash. The only things left in the space were the two mechs and their drills at that point who were fighting in an empty void.
The mechs ARE the Super Spiral Spaces. That's what I've been saying all this time.
And again, even if we assume the Anti-Spiral is lying for no reason about how his contraption works, it would still be "infinite collection of universes" + "infinite collection of universes" + etc. Which still adds up to.....an infinite number of universes.
Which outside repeating that is always how the megaversal system has worked, is just focusing on sematics. Also higher orders of infinity do exist mathematically, which has been used to describe the existence of multiverses.
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