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Grammaton said:

I actually think dragon or ekko are the correct votes today

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Ekko to get rid of 3P, I presume?

With only one scum down can we afford to do that?

Grammaton said:

I actually think dragon or ekko are the correct votes today

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Why not CP?

Grammaton said:

oof

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That's not fantastic

But I'm not sure Lethal busses like that (before he came under scrutiny)

Grammaton said:

possibly, especially if dragon is scum and we’ve correctly identified him.

more just floating the idea

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Yeah fair.

I'm convinced Ekko isn't town at this point so there are definitely worse options.

That said it is likely he's 3P and I would rather see if we can uncover a scumboi.

I'm not particularly convinced on Dragon being scum tbf, a lot of the silly things they've said align with the silly stuff they did as town in ER.

Yea I'd go along with Dragon mainly for the case on Lethal which looked 100% like window dressing

Grammaton said:

I’ll say the same now I said to … someone else yesterday

I’ve liked his play since I voted him on day 1, and he has a particular tendency as scum that he didn’t lean into. I don’t think there’s any good reason to read him scum currently, does anyone disagree?

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Considering the hefty scum portion of the thread, I’d be looking for any good reasons to read him town.

I saw what you posted yesterday, was just after something a tad more specific

Phenom last game leant heavily into his meta, which I don't think I've seen him do here, so I'm fine leaving him be, tbh.

Still reading back but my preferred direction atp would be Ekko or Psychic, fairly sure both those slots are scum

I guess the word should be "leaned"? Whatever

I don't have any real degree of certainty beyond that but the PoE being laid out seems solid

Dalton said:

NGL, stopped reading like a third of the way through it cos these points are ass.

1. I was reading the thread from the beginning and Ratchet's posts stuck out to me at that point. Hence I was gonna quote a bunch of them to show why.
2. I've played a couple games with Ekko tbh, including on WS. He's also got a distinct way of playing so its easy to pick out when it changes.
3. There was no way in which I was making it easy to move my vote around. I was clearly far behind the thread and so was simply letting people know I'd still be able to help at EOD.
4. Your argument around me linking Gramma and Ekko makes no sense, as you initially say that seems to be my intent, then are equally suspicious that I change my view of Gramma.

These readbacks you do achieve nothing more than allow you to twist posts to align with your preconceived notions.

If anything, me targeting Ekko and Gramma should probably ping you as an unlikely scumplay since what scum actively decides to go head-to-head with the most dominant players in this game? In the last game you played with me (ER) when I was scum I was very amicable with the 'thread leaders' (you and Ekko) whereas here I'm actively sussing them. But this obviously doesn't ross your mind because you're just looking for justification for your read.

This isn't even a scumtell, as you did the same thing with these self-fulfilling multiquotes in ER when you were town. Its just frustrating.

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1. But why Ratchet of all people? That's a pretty tall task. You ask why you'd go against Ekko and Gram, but apparently you were ready to swing at Ratchet to start the game. Is that not going against a dominate player as well?

2. Okay, you've played a couple of games with him, I've played many, and sometimes it's hard for me to get a read on him. I've seen a few WS/WF players try to claim they have a good read of how Ekko plays and I just don't feel like that's ever true. I think it's an easy way to just go after Ekko and hide behind meta reasons.

3. Okay this feels just like a brush off. Saying 'let me know where to place my vote' is definitely a possible way to setup just coming back to the thread and placing a vote wherever is convenient for you. You can say you're still catching up and attack some sort of little excuse to the idea of where you're voting to justify it.

4. How does turning heel and changing your view somehow contradict anything I say? You were sussing and shading Gram to start this game and then without a single boost of progression, you're town reading him. How did you get to that progression? For you to switch your read on Gram like that only for him to die and flip town, doesn't sit well with me.

How do ISOs work, Dalton? I saw you had scummy posts while I was reading so I thought I'd do an iso on you. The more I read your posts, the more scummy you became. It felt like you had an agenda. You changed your reads. You started linking mates by pre flipping Ekko as wolf. This feels like a faulty thought process and I'm pointing it out. Your thread leader argument doesn't count either because you wanted to go against Ratchet and then you changed your initial scum read of Gram into a town one. Doesn't really seem like the point you're trying to make here is true.

How are they self-fufilling? Unread your iso and your posts are scummy. Should people just never iso others then? Of course they're going to iso someone looking for specific shit. And how are you even accusing me of a scum tell when we've played, what, a few games together? I don't like it at all how you've tried to give some sort of meta read to me an Ekko despite barely playing with us. Saying this is what I did in Elden Ring is just you writing my reads off in an unfair game (and you know I wasn't even that wrong in Elden Ring). Seems like you're trying to deflect my case and discredit me.

Alco said:

Yea I'd go along with Dragon mainly for the case on Lethal which looked 100% like window dressing

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Did you read my case on Dalton? Did you see my reads list?

Feels reallll good to see that lethal scum flip finally. :garr

I saw that Doddsy and ultra both flipped town, i would have been heading immediately in that direction after lethals flip so some rerouting needed. Psychic was my next in line per the execution wagon. CP would join that discussion as well and less so tweet but I’ll be pissed if that miller claim is a fake

I see discourse around going Ekko since it seem Lethal spilled the beans on him being SK, I don’t hate eliminating a kill whatsoever at this juncture.

Absolutely zero interest in a BPD wagon today.

I’m Bianca Belair, Vanilla Townie bt dubs.