I‘m saying his posts don‘t look like he has an agenda, but I can see some buddying which could be scummy, but isn‘t necessarily.But why call you out for being awkward if he was just going to listen to a based Ultra post and read you town? Calling you town but awkward seems unnecessary, especially since he didn't explain why town Flower would be awkward around that mason claim.
You say his posts haven't been bad her in your reads. How does that fit with the idea that he might be buddying Ultra a bit?
Ekko questioned how many null reads I had, yes, but Ekko and I also had a conversation about that and realized it was a misunderstanding. What point are you trying to connect for calling out Ekko's suss on me here (though I don't know if it was even suss just more shock that I had so many apparent null reads)?this is interesting because ekko sussed your lack of non-null reads and I felt it was unfair as I didn't feel a lot of players had done anything that would make me lean one way or the other on them at that point. 5 reads at this point of the game seems fine? although the tweet one is a throwaway
there is an obvious point around the (THREE DIFFERENT ONES) DVs self-resolving that I am looking forward to circling back to laterso like 3 mafia and 3 town is still not a win for mafia if a townie has double vote
its honestly bullshit
they reached parity and cant win
anyway means DV are going to be somewhat self resolving
@CraigPeltonSo instead of just trying to reread the game, I went over isos of each player just to try and get a grip of each slot. Unless someone has minimum posts or hasn't posted yet, I did try to give some sort of read, just as a starting point for myself.
1. Dalton - Null
- Has not posted
2. T-Pein - Lean Town
- Thought him explaining Roman gif made sense
- Logical explanation on believing Flower claim
3. Ratchet - Lean Town
- Understood thought process of his play around Flower's mason claim
- Empathized with him saying you don't need to understand scum motive
- Argument with Ekko felt like genuine townie frustration/what the heckness
4. Grammaton - Lean Town
- First called questions around mason claims being dubious (home base knowledge being shared)
- Thought process is understandable and presented
- Didn't speak for Lethal and defended Midnight
5. RDK - Wolf Side of Null
- Called out Flower's claim as nervous
- Wants to sheep Gram
6. Lethal - Null
- Some credence to the idea of Lethal loving theme and not being active (deserves benefit of the doubt but still wary)
7. Hans TWEETenberg - Town
- Claimed miller and I believe it
8. Ultra - Lean Town
- Felt like him questioning Flower's nervousness was genuine pondering and had legit reasons
- Questioning Ratchet didn't feel like there was an agenda
9. CraigPelton - Wolf Side of Null
- Thought Flower's mason claim was not townie (when Ultra said why it was townie Craig said he had the opposite impression)
- Felt like maybe he didn't really read my posts and said I read Flower wolf, then dropped the convo
10. Goth Boy - Null
- I won't lie, this is a player that is the closet thing I'd call a policy lynch for me
- I'll leave him be
11. Psychic - Town Side of Null
- Questioning double masons having scum in it seemed logical
12. Aurelian - Wolf Side of Null
- Doesn't seem engaged yet
13. Alco - Null
- Has not posted
14. Black Pegged Dragon - LOCK Town
- LOCK town and town core
15. Big Man - Null
- Posted twice
16. PHEN0M - Town Side of Null
- Thought him challenging Ekko showed good initiative
17. Doddsy - Town Side of Null
- Seems too aloof right now (unless leaning into this after two scum games :O)
18. Evans - Wolf Side of Null
- His Tpein call out for Roman gif pinged me
19. Nevermind - Wolf Side of Null
- Calling out Flower early pinged me
20. Rugrat - Null
- Has not posted yet
21. Indigo - Lean Town
- Bold to be scum claiming mason second but not accusing Flower of being wolf
22. Ekko - Wolf Side of Null
- Didn't really understand why he argued with Ratchet over a joke
- Asked Gram for Lethal read despite Lethal having one post (the way Ekko talked I thought Lethal had more)
23. Tiara - Lean Town
- Tend to believe her mason claim
- Understand nervousness if mason partner unknown
I sympathize with lethal because I don't even have 5 reads I dont thinkEkko questioned how many null reads I had, yes, but Ekko and I also had a conversation about that and realized it was a misunderstanding. What point are you trying to connect for calling out Ekko's suss on me here (though I don't know if it was even suss just more shock that I had so many apparent null reads)?
We have what, twenty three players in this game? Lethal said he was caught up and could provide five reads (one was Tweet). So only being able to read 4/22 players, including no reads on the top three post sets, felt off. He was able to give him some response to my reads list, but overall I'm still not really buying Lethal's reads at all here, especially when his scum reads are on the weaker side.
Speaking of reads, what do you got, Craig? I feel like you've been happy to camp on the sidelines this game. I don't feel the usual bite from your comments.
if u r town it means he just went from voting me, a town, to you, another town, and both came at a time when the thread seemed favorable with voting us, and both lacked any meaningful explaination from his end.Can you elaborate on this please?
See lethal, this guy gets itSo are you :cozy
I never had null reads except for players who had not posted or only one or two posts. It was a miscommunication on the terminology I was using. I'm trying my best in games to give reads on every slot if they've at least posted even a little.what are your current non-null reads @Black Pegged Dragon
I knew Indigo said he had another role but I never thought of it like this. Good catch and thanks for pointing that out.Stop town reading indigo.
He slipped that he has a different role other than mason.
On the last Poyser game the town mason was just a mason.
The scum mason was mason and he had his scum ability.
Me thinks other town masons are also just masons here and they are gonna sus indigo here.
@Tiara you are a mason.
Tell me if you sus indigo or not after I just told you this.
Agree with this take on N0MOkay nice. Content aside I'm happy you were able to quickly go back and show the posts you were thinking of as that implies it's genuine.
Content wise I feel that does largely follow along with Gram's analysis of Ratchet's general scum play so I quite like this. Nom town
so the total vote count of the players is what count toward the number of votes required for majority? its not just strictly player count
i remember hating on this before. if mafia/indie wont be able to win 1v1 with a town just cuz that town has 2x vote power its honestly bullshit imo but what do i know about majority
look at my post above i explained my reasoning on why ^The bolded is bad
I’m literally in work on a weekend pal
so like 3 mafia and 3 town is still not a win for mafia if a townie has double vote
its honestly bullshit
they reached parity and cant win
anyway means DV are going to be somewhat self resolving
I'm sorry I can't control time! I wish everyone had all the time in the world to post what they felt necessary in the thread to help themselves out. Unfortunately that's not the case and what you HAVE posted isn't so great in my eyes!I’m literally in work on a weekend pal
Well I can't really trust meta all that much, I am curious as to why you say Gram is within his scum range?So are you :cozy
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