Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

[Paxton]

Elemental magic of the ice, fire, earth, gravity, and lightning variety.
The ability to turn someone into a frog, stop their time, or just instantly kill them.
Illusions out the ass, is nigh-unkillable due to space alien cancer cells, etc etc.

"just a few tricks" my ass.

I'm sure there's other stuff I'm forgetting but come on.

 

[Gordo]

For an actual interesting topic
What characters that used to be big in the vs game but now fell off these days?

Dark Schneider and Tenchy muyo are my picks

Toriko

 

[Randomdude]

Can I ask where scaling to dnd comes from when it comes to overlord anyway? Most of the stuff I see from overlord just uses nuclear blast and shalltears whole dubiously hypersonic feat.

You'd think wank wise people would be trying to scale ainz to some nonsensical lovecraftian level based on him summoning and controlling dark young.

 

[Masterblack06]

Can I ask where scaling to dnd comes from when it comes to overlord anyway? Most of the stuff I see from overlord just uses nuclear blast and shalltears whole dubiously hypersonic feat.

You'd think wank wise people would be trying to scale ainz to some nonsensical lovecraftian level based on him summoning and controlling dark young.

They assume it has stuff like dnd therefore its okay to scale it to stuff from dnd. it makes no fucking sense

 

[Randomdude]

Can I get an example? Cause I don't think Ive seen such. Ive seen some bizzare claims about ainz tgoalid making him planet level (Was on reddit, solid meme/reading comprehension fail)

 

[Masterblack06]

Can I get an example? Cause I don't think Ive seen such. Ive seen some bizzare claims about ainz tgoalid making him planet level (Was on reddit, solid meme/reading comprehension fail)

its mostly in the threads where they put DnD characters vs Overlord

 

[Gordo]

Seconding Slayers

Supernatural too, which also suffered a ton of NLF abuse

Maybe it's just me but I don't really see Saint Seiya talked about that often anymore

Supernatural is known for saying things that make them seem really powerful but with no feats to prove it

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Can I get an example? Cause I don't think Ive seen such. Ive seen some bizzare claims about ainz tgoalid making him planet level (Was on reddit, solid meme/reading comprehension fail)

It's primarily JUST the names of spells in Overlord is the same as names in DnD like "Make a Wish" or something like that.
That's literally all the basis they have in why spells in Overlord must be exactly the same in DnD and thus they are 1:1.

Elemental magic of the ice, fire, earth, gravity, and lightning variety.
The ability to turn someone into a frog, stop their time, or just instantly kill them.
Illusions out the ass, is nigh-unkillable due to space alien cancer cells, etc etc.

"just a few tricks" my ass.

I'm sure there's other stuff I'm forgetting but come on.

Hilariously, this is the one feat that DOESN'T require JENOVA Cells at all unless he wants to physically come back from the dead.
Just like Aerith and Zack, Sephiroth's will is so strong, he legit cannot fall into the Lifestream's flow and will remain like that for all of eternity(Though Advent Children tried to go with Sephiroth having to focus all of his will on Cloud to do so... but later games primarily ignore this until Remake and even then, it still implies for all of the Sephiroth treating him like an Ex, he isn't as laser focused on Cloud like AC goes with it).

 

[Randomdude]

It's primarily JUST the names of spells in Overlord is the same as names in DnD like "Make a Wish" or something like that.
That's literally all the basis they have in why spells in Overlord must be exactly the same in DnD and thus they are 1:1.

I was more wondering where you saw the comparisons being made in vs scenarios in particular.

If you want to get technical about the author stealing from dnd its more then just that, the organization of magic items is straight dnd, freedom of movement, wish upon a star, scream of the banshee, shockwave, gate, raise dead, aren't just named similarly but do the same things ect. Even the tiering system of overlords magic is a bastardized version of dnd, the alignment system is a stripped back/simplified version of dnd, simply removing the chaotic/lawful aspect. Super tier magic and the way it's gained/progresses is heavily ripping from the old epic spell system iirc.

This is all because the beginning of overlord was literally the authors dnd campaign group stopped hanging out twelve years ago so he built his own story/world/characters to fill the time.

Now to say this makes them comparable to dnd/scalable is silly but the author unabashedly did steal half ainz spell list from dnd proper, with slight tweaks to names wherever he felt he'd get in trouble. With addition of whatever the hell else he wanted.

Id say the biggest difference between overlord and a lot of other fantasy inspired by dnd is how abashed the inspiration is. The author straight up stole chunks of dnd he liked and grafted into his own bizzare magical world.

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

Say whatever you will about Avatar 2, but the sheer amount of salt it will generate from SB will be unmatched by anything they've ever salted over ever. An advanced space-faring society loosing to primitive aliens with nuclear coconuts and giant balugas is everything they deserve.

 

[Flowering Knight]

I was more wondering where you saw the comparisons being made in vs scenarios in particular.

If you want to get technical about the author stealing from dnd its more then just that, the organization of magic items is straight dnd, freedom of movement, wish upon a star, scream of the banshee, shockwave, gate, raise dead, aren't just named similarly but do the same things ect. Even the tiering system of overlords magic is a bastardized version of dnd, the alignment system is a stripped back/simplified version of dnd, simply removing the chaotic/lawful aspect. Super tier magic and the way it's gained/progresses is heavily ripping from the old epic spell system iirc.

This is all because the beginning of overlord was literally the authors dnd campaign group stopped hanging out twelve years ago so he built his own story/world/characters to fill the time.

Now to say this makes them comparable to dnd/scalable is silly but the author unabashedly did steal half ainz spell list from dnd proper, with slight tweaks to names wherever he felt he'd get in trouble. With addition of whatever the hell else he wanted.

Id say the biggest difference between overlord and a lot of other fantasy inspired by dnd is how abashed the inspiration is. The author straight up stole chunks of dnd he liked and grafted into his own bizzare magical world.

I mean Goblin Slayer was reportedly based on a 2e campaign but we don't scale the characters or spells off anything in D&D, and that's just a more recent example. Record of Lodoss War was literally a D&D campaign turned novel turned anime, but we don't scale them off D&D. They're different series and should be treated as such.

 

[Randomdude]

I mean Goblin Slayer was reportedly based on a 2e campaign but we don't scale the characters or spells off anything in D&D, and that's just a more recent example. Record of Lodoss War was literally a D&D campaign turned novel turned anime, but we don't scale them off D&D. They're different series and should be treated as such.

I don't disagree? I literally note how silly the idea is in my comment, I was just pointing out the author was very, very forward with his theft of ideas and concepts from dnd in a way most series aren't.

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

I mean Goblin Slayer was reportedly based on a 2e campaign but we don't scale the characters or spells off anything in D&D, and that's just a more recent example. Record of Lodoss War was literally a D&D campaign turned novel turned anime, but we don't scale them off D&D. They're different series and should be treated as such.

TES also started out as the home-brew campaign of the devs (at least with Arena and Daggerfall), though a lot of that changed or was altered when Kirkbride and Kuhlmann started doing their thing.

 

[Claudio Swiss]

Hellsing’s Alucard and Samurai Deeper Kyo’s Former Crimson King are largely forgotten these days compared to their popularity a decade ago

Alucard fell off in the Vs game when everyone realized he ain't shit to anybody with Superior power, Speed,Hax and decent AOE to null his Regen
Schrodinger don't even change much outside forcing stalemates if you don't have good mind Hax
Alucard is popular in the cool anime vampire route but not the guy folks wanked him back then


The latter definitely fell off when he used to be prominent

OOOH, that's honestly a tough one...
I would honestly go with Dark Schneider myself. He popped up so much in the past but he's all but vanished and with the Anime not getting to the Dispel Bound/Eternal Atoms shit yet, he won't really be popping up for some time.

Sesshoumaru is another, only revived due to Yashahime and back to irrelevance.

transformers

Slayers isn't used nowadays but there used to be a decent amount of Lord of Nightmares threads

also lolHaruhi threads back in the day were insane lol

Seconding Slayers

Supernatural too, which also suffered a ton of NLF abuse

Maybe it's just me but I don't really see Saint Seiya talked about that often anymore

houshin engi too, used to be a decent amount of Jyoka threads way back

Man it's really funny how these series used to have prominence before felt like there wasn't a day without seeing them in a fight

 

[Qinglong]

saint seiya usually just gets drug up to keep stomping DBS characters now lol

Thanos w/HOTU vs. Suzumiya Haruhi

I heard this Haruhi girl is omnipotent. Can she beat Thanos?

www.fanverse.org

To be fair the majority of Saint Seiya's overseas fanbase speaks spanish, which even shows on FV as multiple Saint Seiya fans are ESL

 

[Masterblack06]

I've been thinking of some potentially overpowered tag teams in fiction and off the top of my head we got shit like

Simon and Guy
Kumogawa and Touma
Accelerator and Encounter
Victini and Majin Buu
The Flash and Pucci w/ Made in Heaven

I cant think of any other ones at the moment

 

[Flowering Knight]

Oh man, Haruhi


If there was ever a contender for weakest universal character, it'd probably be her

 

[Blade]

What characters that used to be big in the vs game but now fell off these days?

in no order

- tenchi
- slayers
- magi
- seiya verse
- noein
- darsh verse
- houshin engi
- toriko
- kurohime
- nippoverse
- alita verse
- xenogears


some quick examples

 

[Claudio Swiss]

in no order

- tenchi
- slayers
- magi
- seiya verse
- noein
- darsh verse
- houshin engi
- toriko
- kurohime
- nippoverse
- alita verse
- xenogears


some quick examples

Man it feels like yesterday I heard these names

 

[Blade]

obd needs a massive update, but we ain't doing it on fanzverse, obv, lol

at least olf o bee dee, still is somewhat good, cuz we still try to somewhat keep the topics active, plus we post feats, more often than we do in fanzverse

mean

fanzverse obd

aint even obd anymore

just a lawless wasteland with keishin and his heralds doing, what they want = obd 2027 lore