Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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Adamant soul

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Ah yes, those guys can do it when again, Quilge with Volstandigt on AND an Ayon powerup(who was able to hurt him greatly) still couldn't do dick to FB Ichigo... okay...
I mean Mayuri vs FB Ichigo PRE-QUINCY powers is at least debatable, but post-Quincy FB Ichigo isn't being beaten by anything short of Captain Commander tier fighters and even they aren't a sure thing.

"But Mustache beat him soundly though."

Which doesn't change the fact that blocking ANY attacks or doing ANY damage to Mustache at all (even at his weakest as he was then), handily puts Ichigo above most characters. Considering this version of Mustache could already steal and wield Yamamoto's Bankai.
 
Mayuri pre-Quincy Awakening? Sure but it would still take a hell of alot of work for him considering he's not good at swordfighting or movement.

But yeah anyone defeating him after that is a complete joke since even at that point, Ichigo was basically wrecked and not at 100% and still threw down greatly with Yhwach after that and still one shot Sternritter with hilarious ease.
It has to take the legit big guns to deal with Ichigo after that, period.
 

Astaro

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Genuinely curious on how exactly Carissa cancels precog.

Gabriel has a feat of nulling Sixth Sense and Premonitions as the Messenger of God but Carissa isnt Gabriel nor gets her power from Gabriel
 

Mr.OMG

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Genuinely curious on how exactly Carissa cancels precog.

Gabriel has a feat of nulling Sixth Sense and Premonitions as the Messenger of God but Carissa isnt Gabriel nor gets her power from Gabriel
I meant that Carissa could use angelic energy to "brute force" ignore the effects of low-level influences (like magic), like Kuroko ignoring the effects of lower dimensional influences like manipulating causality, fate, or breaking predetermined events, or like Terra with her angelic ability to manipulate hierarchy so he can ignore human magic. In short, simply the hierarchical superiority of higher laws over lower ones.
 
Genuinely curious on how exactly Carissa cancels precog.

Gabriel has a feat of nulling Sixth Sense and Premonitions as the Messenger of God but Carissa isnt Gabriel nor gets her power from Gabriel

Idk, didn't one of you guys say she can cancel Precognition? I'm only going by that because you said it. Again it's pointless anyway considering she can just kill Scion's true body with the Curtana Original or some shit right?
 

Astaro

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I meant that Carissa could use angelic energy to "brute force" ignore the effects of low-level influences (like magic), like Kuroko ignoring the effects of lower dimensional influences like manipulating causality, fate, or breaking predetermined events, or like Terra with her angelic ability to manipulate hierarchy so he can ignore human magic. In short, simply the hierarchical superiority of higher laws over lower ones.
Kuroko’s counters a very specific form of precog that just so happens to involve dimensional fuckery. And because she can traverse higher dimensions.

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Carissa’s Omni-dimensional sword cutting and actions are all still taking place within our own 3-Dimensional world
 

Astaro

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Idk, didn't one of you guys say she can cancel Precognition? I'm only going by that because you said it. Again it's pointless anyway considering she can just kill Scion's true body with the Curtana Original or some shit right?
I never once said Carissa can cancel precognition
 

Cryso Agori

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I meant that Carissa could use angelic energy to "brute force" ignore the effects of low-level influences (like magic), like Kuroko ignoring the effects of lower dimensional influences like manipulating causality, fate, or breaking predetermined events, or like Terra with her angelic ability to manipulate hierarchy so he can ignore human magic. In short, simply the hierarchical superiority of higher laws over lower ones.
Kuroko is immune to precog and fate because her teleportation allows her to slip into the 11th dimension meaning she isn't effected by events on the 3rd dimension, Carissa can't do that. And I don't know if Carissa can simply brute force magic like that
 

That visibly looks like Failnaught rather than him swinging a sword, and compared to every other showing from him that is very much his strongest attack. Either way, that is Redestro swinging his arm and the pure air pressure of it destroying city blocks, compared to presumably Tristan having to come into direct contact with it. (Pretty sure that is the most impressive feat in the Camelot movie from the knights too.)

>Earlier scene shows that Failnaught vanished when he pretended to be affected by Serenity's poison
>Later scenes show he never used Failnaught again throughout that entire fight
>The actual attack we've seen that cut a huge foundation alongside the building is different than how we seen Failnaught works
Typical NR downplay... half baked, not thought through and 100% stupid.

You are going to have to convince me of a lot to think Saber is at all comparable to Karna, and even then that is NP usage for the most part with Siegfried, who'd be the one who could have Artoria scale to.
The plume is relevant cause All for One and All Might punching each other at their most crippled launched dust and chunks of building nearly 1000 ft into the air. This is them at their weakest and Current Shigaraki and Izuku are way stronger now.

>How is Saber Alter comparable to Karna
The fact that Saber Alter defeated Altera in her Interlude? And I like how NR's response is "Look at how much stronger they currently are" and nothing to, you know? Prove it?

Citation? That aside, UA Island is completely made of steel, metal and stone and is possibly even way bigger than 200+ meters and Shigaraki just leaping at Izuku caused it to shake, compared to, yknow, an actual punch.

... NR is contending to be the worst simp imaginable...
Nevermind that I consistently brought that shit up over and over again during my tenor in SB but the Hanging Gardens of Babylon is heavily implied to be the same size as Model Camelot... which is a literal City-Sized landmass. The fact he thinks the Hanging Garden's don't have extremely durable shit in it's creation just astounds me despite the fact that Sieg and Karna literally throw bombs all over it and it's not destroyed or most of it is reduced to rubble so Spartacus causing it to shake violently over a huge shockwave is extremely impressive.

And Endeavor can turn concrete to air by proximity from sheer heatpower, and this was just the side effect of him dragging All for One around instead of an actual attack.
Again, if anything, the two are comparable, considering both obliterate the forest around them on basically accident.

>Endeavor going full blast with his heat > Saber Alter clearing an entire forest with a Mana Burst just to clear off the ring rust.
Yeah sure, 100% the same...

Turas Realtas, aka, not a feat allowed by the OP since its only allowing FGO feats, not the mangas.

>Not including Turas Realta, despite being an FGO Manga and thus an FGO feat
:giogio

The roar happens after the lightning is already moving toward Sven. It, by nature of happening after the lightning claw, has to be able to intercept it by moving faster than it can move. Either way, it's some wonkyness.

>The scene literally states that the Lightning that's used is actual Lightning
>Doesn't count due to the roar coming after the Lightning
>Despite the page saying otherwise...
That NR logic...
 

Mr.OMG

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Kuroko’s counters a very specific form of precog that just so happens to involve dimensional fuckery. And because she can traverse higher dimensions.

tq0Eniy.png


Carissa’s Omni-dimensional sword cutting and actions are all still taking place within our own 3-Dimensional world
The Kuroko example is simply an example of hierarchical superiority and ignoring low dimensional influences. And superiority over magic is not expressed in finding 3-dimensional space, but in the hierarchical superiority of laws and energy.

P.s and we should be discussing in the ToAru thread, not here.
 

Astaro

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The Kuroko example is simply an example of hierarchical superiority and ignoring low dimensional influences. And superiority over magic is not expressed in finding 3-dimensional space, but in the hierarchical superiority of laws and energy.

P.s and we should be discussing in the ToAru thread, not here.
Doesnt apply to Carissa in the same way for the above mentioned reasons
 

Cryso Agori

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The Kuroko example is simply an example of hierarchical superiority and ignoring low dimensional influences. And superiority over magic is not expressed in finding 3-dimensional space, but in the hierarchical superiority of laws and energy.

P.s and we should be discussing in the ToAru thread, not here.
its spatial dimensions, not phases.
 

Mr.OMG

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its spatial dimensions, not phases.
" That sword was an extreme spiritual item that fully united the three factions and four regions of the United Kingdom; it could draw on a portion of Archangel Michael's power while on British territory. If a qualified user released that power even for a moment, a swing of the sword would sever all dimensions at once and giant ruined materials would be created along the line of the slash.

Yes, all dimensions.

Assuming it could hit, that extraordinary power could penetrate the barrier between worlds and kill a being lurking in a different phase… for example, Holy Guardian Angel Aiwass who stayed in the layer of physical laws at the very bottom. "

Edit: I'm going to bed. If you answer something, I'll answer it later.
 

Paxton

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Idk, didn't one of you guys say she can cancel Precognition? I'm only going by that because you said it. Again it's pointless anyway considering she can just kill Scion's true body with the Curtana Original or some shit right?
The issue is that, despite being much much faster, Scion's true body (the Warrior Entity).. is really fucking big.

Like planet-sized at the least.
 

Astaro

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The issue is that, despite being much much faster, Scion's true body (the Warrior Entity).. is really fucking big.

Like planet-sized at the least.
Does he have a vital spot anywhere? Carissa does have a function in the blade to have the strike automatically hit where ever is most lethal. She doesn’t need to know what those vitals are either.

Knight Leader’s slim fingertips tightly held his dark-red sword.

“Theoretically, this level of characteristic can be divided into a few categories instead of being lumped together in a single category. Simply put, there is the Slicing Power that can cut through anything, the Weapon Weight that creates tremendous destructive force, the Enduring Solidity that cannot be destroyed, and the Movement Speed that makes no one able to catch up to me. There is also Special Use, a rare pattern necessary to slay particular monsters, Precise Accuracy that automatically has me move toward the vital points, and the pattern I just used against you.”
 

Paxton

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Kino matchup tbh but doesn't Ciri stomp?
 
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