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Ultra said:
I'm saying the opposite - you didn't mean to quote me, it was something you just said subconsciously that just happened to be my observation. You reached for something in your brain to shade Ekko and that's what you found.
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Oh like that. Yea I don’t agree but if that’s your perception then so be it
 
Oh right you guys hinted masons

are you saying you’re character and alignment confirmed to each other?
 
Wait hang on

you said you had tweet Town initially until he gave up too easily, and yet you think my reason for reading him town was horse shit and ultra’s reason for reading him scum made more sense. So why were you reading him town?
 
BTW I’m off for a work meeting so don’t expect much from me in the coming hours

Meanwhile vote Gramma
 
Alco said:
I see where You’re coming from, I think, in that I use supposedly town behavior to accuse Ekko, but in this case what’s bothering me is that he’s leaning so much into it without any merit. Almost as if he saw some people questioning his absence and him wanting to make up ground
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can u reply to my question above about which reads of mine u agree/disagree with? and why for each one

what u've been doing is just unqualified shade. let's get u on the spotlight a bit
 
Poyser said:
Because you came in with 30 minutes left, you could posture as much as you wanted but it was unlikely to change the lynch from your pov
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does it matter how long i have been in the thread to make a read on someone???
 
Poyser said:
No I don’t. At all. There was literally nothing wrong with my reasoning at all lmao
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I've heard enough.

Vote: Poyser

Bonus questions for the room:
1 - Why does Poyser apologise to Ultra in the post where he rescinds his Town read of Tweet if his reasoning now had no issue with it?
2 - Why did other players besides myself take exception with his reasoning, and if I'm not mistaken here, most notably Tweet himself?

I think Poyser is very transparently bloviating in his arguments - he dismisses points against him as stupid and nonsensical and tries to posit that there is no justifiable reason for the conclusions made to have been made. In spite of this, he continues to conflate the arguments themselves - when his reasoning is discussed, he makes it about the conclusion of the read for example. I feel like I've given more than enough opportunity here for him to show some form of a logical thought process - it is entirely absent.
 
Poyser said:
??
I was defending someone being pushed, of course it’s going to be questioned… are you trying to say that would have surprised me, or that I’d be worried/scared of it? Because if so then why choose to defend him in the first place? And surely flipping my read on its head would just lead to more intense questioning?
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why do u scum read ratchet?
 
Poyser said:
Also you can repeat I’m lacking analysis as much as you want lmao it’s not gonna make it true, the thread is literally full of it
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u scum read me for making a read on tweet an hour to 30 min before deadline and asking for a case. there 0 analysis behind this m8
 
Poyser said:
Wait hang on

you said you had tweet Town initially until he gave up too easily, and yet you think my reason for reading him town was horse shit and ultra’s reason for reading him scum made more sense. So why were you reading him town?
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I don't recall reading him town. Can you pull that up please?

Yesterday, I questioned why Tweet as Scum would claim Tree Stump. I believe it was you who provided a perfectly plausible and agreeable counter to that, which I duly retired, and then insisted he was firmly Null. I suppose you can argue that me saying "I don't know why scum tweet claims stump" is town reading him, but you were fully aware of this position I held, and you were fully aware of my resulting progression, so you trying to present it as a contradiction now is outright disingenuous.
 
Ratchet said:
@Ekkologix



In short:

>Reads Tweet town without elaboration.
>Eventually says Tweet is town because he doubled down on suspecting X, because X was widely town read at that point in the thread. Dismisses the idea that scum wouldn't want to overextend, essentially.
>Gets called out for this, and then immediately retracts his read because of how tweet handled Alco (who had nowhere near as universal a read from anyone) which meant he was using an unrelated point to move himself positionally and dismiss his earlier reasoning.

It's easily his worst play of the game, and hard to reconcile as town. Appealing to WIFOM has been his main defence today, that and to dismiss arguments against him as "shite" without putting the work in to discredit them.
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bolded is a type of read that comes more from TMI PoV

for poyser tho ive seen him do these kind of reads as town before when he reads lethal doddsy tpein or psychic for some weird reasons in previous games so i wouldn't say its a damning point

why is he that aggressive towards me when he himself used to read tweet town at certain point

also the posts u brought probably tells me poyser/ultra arent a team
 
I'm struggling to find the post where I said I think he gave up which looked bad on him, but I did find the post where I mentioned his stump claim was my (singular) reservation.
 
Ratchet said:
The reservation I have with Tweet here is - why as scum does he claim stump? I understand that this is approaching WIFOM, but with Xenos on the table I feel like basically anything but "lynching me is fine" would be strong enough a claim to at least dissuade some people from wanting his flip, but he chose the one claim that actually invites it. I don't believe this has been given due consideration - it was just tabled and then dismissed.
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As stated^
 
Ratchet said:
The problem I was having was his claim made more sense to me coming from town, with that more or less addressed I have nothing to defend him with. This is a long way of saying "null, but the flip is informative in regards to you & rugrat to me".
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This post was directly towards Poyser, he read it and responded to it. In other words, he has no excuse to make this post:
Poyser said:
Wait hang on

you said you had tweet Town initially until he gave up too easily, and yet you think my reason for reading him town was horse shit and ultra’s reason for reading him scum made more sense. So why were you reading him town?
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I rest my case.
 
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