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Aurelian said:
I don't really have a comment. Its not related here.
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Except one of the reasons he is town reading you is this supposed meta. Don't you think you'd want to dispute that and question why Poyser is giving you town points for supposedly being too weak too handle a scum role, so you couldn't possibly be scum here?
 
Aurelian said:
I don't agree with this assessment but I do recall you arguing this and saying as much to him earlier.

We were both pretty much dead set in agreement that your earlier interactions with Lethal weren't good and felt like it was a good avenue to bark you on it, he also made a strong case in which you were reading Tweet as town but still went along with voting on his lynch but he had at least a disclaimer to his post when voted Tweet since he made it clear he was interested in seeing how it would flip with his claim of stump/ghost.

I was advocating for lynching Xenos as well because I don't want a fucking serial killer around. Which is also funny because I had a disagreement with him about my lean on thinking BPD is scum/wolf which he didn't buy into. We weren't 100% on everything in our mason chat when it came to agreement.

I don't know what your definition is of solving and operating in the game? Actively engaging people isn't trying to solve and be a net positive for town? Offering input isn't? He's been fairly consistent when it came to his issues with you or how the Tweet lynch ended up resolving with his flip. I mean you say him and me being in a mason chat together is NAI but I don't know how you expect me to not implicitly trust him since you think there's still a chance he could be a mafia-mason and say its something past games have had where you play them.
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Interacting with people isn’t solving lol. Solving is an attempt to take peoples play into consideration, look at it from both sides to see where it fits. I haven’t seen him do any of that really. I think the only example I can think of is his “why would a scum tweet claim stump?” But I can’t think of a single other instance of him making an effort to actually solve

I don’t know why the bottom bit is so hard for you. Being masons is NAI. It just is and I am far from the only person to tell you that. So I’d expect you to not implicitly trust him because you’ve been told by multiple people that are familiar with both our community and this particular host that being a mason is NAI
 
Ultra said:
Why is he getting credit for voting tweet when tweet flipped town lol.

I don't expect to be town read for lynching tweet. I anticipate players are town reading me for my approach.

His point against Gram is "why did he SUS Pein in one game and not the other". This is not compelling stuff, it's informative if Gram is scum and strictly nothing less.

I don't mean to be harsh but this is all reasonably fakeble. Woof.
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No no, you said his posts are just dropping in and agreeing with everybody, and I’m saying that is harsh and not a fair representation. I’m not giving him credit for voting tweet, I’m just saying he was the first person to bring up sus on him, and give actual reasons for it, and the same with gram (he also called out gram for ignoring him and has brought his name up as a vote option a few times) so you saying he hasn’t accomplished anything in this game or tried to read or push or whatever isn’t really true
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
Except one of the reasons he is town reading you is this supposed meta. Don't you think you'd want to dispute that and question why Poyser is giving you town points for supposedly being too weak too handle a scum role, so you couldn't possibly be scum here?
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So you want me to insist Poyser is wrong and hint I'm scum instead and just playing that much better? Is that the gist of what your saying?
 
Aurelian said:
So you want me to insist Poyser is wrong and hint I'm scum instead and just playing that much better? Is that the gist of what your saying?
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I’m not entirely sure he even knows what point he is trying to make lol. Guess he wants us to sus each other because it would make life easier for him
 
T-Pein™ said:
cuz u r scum.
Imma roletrack you today.
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Grammaton said:
have at it lol
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T-Pein™ said:
isnt this sus?
I will 100% use it on him.
Instead of saying dont or spilling the beans so I use it on some other he just says this.
bad.
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Grammaton said:
why - you’ll either clear me or scum will use resources to frame me and I’m not gonna be about much so it’s win win
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T-Pein™ said:
Sus.
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T-Pein™ said:
I think town would try and convince me to check someone else....
Then he says that he thinks scum will interfere with my check on him.
To "frame him".
He says he doesn't care cuz he wont "play much"
Obviously the solution is to just claim rn.
Why wait for me to check him at night and potentially he gets "framed".
Sus
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Alco said:
I'll agree with Pein that Odo has been far from inspiring. Also ignored my question I asked him :hogansun
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This interaction right here. So Pein tells Gram for the 427th time that he's gonna roletrack him and Gram just goes kewl, go right ahead. T-Pein reacts to this by calling Gram sus for it.

Now right away I think that's nonsense because I for one would find it much more suspicious if somebody tried to actually dissuade me from using the roletrack like that. Pein obviously doesn't agree, see above, oh well. But Alco then coming in and picking that timing to agree with T-Pein is slimy to me. I don't believe that he actually believes that T-Peins take makes a great deal of sense. Sure, there's nothing much to like about Grams play so far but the timing and occasion to which Alco agrees with Pein strikes me as scummy.
 
Poyser said:
That’s pretty cute, but you’re not even my top sus or who I want to lynch, tho I will happily do so if you’re going to hold the game up.

It’s not just inactive lynching either, there are reasons. Your sus of tpein D1 was pretty lazy and alco made a good point that you read him town in the previous game for playing pretty much the same way as he is here and when he asked you what the difference was, you ignored him. I also didn’t really feel like you were trying to do much of anything when you were here on day 1, you were pretty happy just to let arguing go on and only bothered to way in to suggest lynching xenos over Flower out of the indies lol, there wasn’t any pro activity from you at all which I’d expect of you when you’re town.

also thinking on it, im gonna call absolute bullshit on you saying you’d be embarrassed about inactive hunting on D3. In radiant mafia, you were literally advocating to hunt the inactives on each of D1, D2 and D3 kek. You pushed both kurumi and psychic just for being inactive and not wanting to let them get away with it, so forgive me if I think you’re full of shit here
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Grammaton said:
the bolded is laughable - I legitimately stopped you from wasting your life and everyone else’s patience tunnelling BPD

bit of a difference between a pure vanilla game where you’ve got literally no way to solve inactives and a game like this where you have these magical things called ‘roles’ and with ‘roles’, there’s less chance is losing to coasters if those ‘roles’ are used sensibly, but you knew that already

take your vague level one wrestling smarks nonsense concepts like ‘holding the game up’ and walk away

or lynch me idc
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NOW THIS IS MAFIA
 
Poyser said:
No no, you said his posts are just dropping in and agreeing with everybody, and I’m saying that is harsh and not a fair representation. I’m not giving him credit for voting tweet, I’m just saying he was the first person to bring up sus on him, and give actual reasons for it, and the same with gram (he also called out gram for ignoring him and has brought his name up as a vote option a few times) so you saying he hasn’t accomplished anything in this game or tried to read or push or whatever isn’t really true
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Let me step back a bit so you understand my point. I'm saying a good chunk of his posts are in the format of "I agree with this because so and so said so or (bad reason)". I think these sorta come across as more unnatural than in his Elden Ring game. I'm not really accusing him of swimming in consensus or anything. Go and ISO his D1 and see for yourself. Woof.
 
Hans Tweetenberg said:
This interaction right here. So Pein tells Gram for the 427th time that he's gonna roletrack him and Gram just goes kewl, go right ahead. T-Pein reacts to this by calling Gram sus for it.

Now right away I think that's nonsense because I for one would find it much more suspicious if somebody tried to actually dissuade me from using the roletrack like that. Pein obviously doesn't agree, see above, oh well. But Alco then coming in and picking that timing to agree with T-Pein is slimy to me. I don't believe that he actually believes that T-Peins take makes a great deal of sense. Sure, there's nothing much to like about Grams play so far but the timing and occasion to which Alco agrees with Pein strikes me as scummy.
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Would knowing that alco sussed gram before this change the point or do you think this interaction would be scummy regardless?
 
As for Poyser, somewhere in the myriad of notifications I woke up to I saw a big ass post of his where one of his points against me was that I allegedly dipped right when my wagon started to fizze out.

To which I say, I said I was going to sleep and so I did, so that's slimy as well.
 
Hans Tweetenberg said:
This interaction right here. So Pein tells Gram for the 427th time that he's gonna roletrack him and Gram just goes kewl, go right ahead. T-Pein reacts to this by calling Gram sus for it.

Now right away I think that's nonsense because I for one would find it much more suspicious if somebody tried to actually dissuade me from using the roletrack like that. Pein obviously doesn't agree, see above, oh well. But Alco then coming in and picking that timing to agree with T-Pein is slimy to me. I don't believe that he actually believes that T-Peins take makes a great deal of sense. Sure, there's nothing much to like about Grams play so far but the timing and occasion to which Alco agrees with Pein strikes me as scummy.
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I want your input on his read on Ekko earlier today. Woof.
 
Ok I’ll say what my biggest problem is with pushing alco. I do agree he looks pretty bad around tweet overall, and I’m not any more confident on gram being mafia than I am on alco

But, one hold up I do have is that I find it fairly hard to imagine a scum alco trying to pick a fight with gram of all people. I can’t see a world where he thinks that ends well for him
 
Poyser said:
Would knowing that alco sussed gram before this change the point or do you think this interaction would be scummy regardless?
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I wouldn't grant him any brownie points for that either way since Gram is unprecedentedly low hanging fruit this game and pointing out that he hasn't been around much isn't worth any sort of credit
 
Hans Tweetenberg said:
I wouldn't grant him any brownie points for that either way since Gram is unprecedentedly low hanging fruit this game and pointing out that he hasn't been around much isn't worth any sort of credit
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That’s not really why he was sussing him tho, and he first started prodding him on D1
 
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