Game Unranked Archived Fairy Tail Mafia - The Dawn of Fiore [Main Game Thread] (Game Ended - Zeref Dragneel and Acnologia have won the game)
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TSworder
Majin
Im vanilla, I cant confirm myself this phase....
Dr_Professor83
Professional Troll
hime
Exceptional
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y only those 2 players? u mentioned that u dont like the sheeping on ur wagon, y not look into and vote players from there?
I'm watching you.
TSworder
Majin
I voted already.... my vote is on BPD
Juliet
Illustrious
I see you have a meta read on Prof and I don't have a meta read on him and I'll need to play more games with him. In the Pokemon game he was scum and he was active.
I'm leaning town on you since you seem engaged in the game and it looked like you were moving the game forward. I know one of your scum tells and you haven't shown it. Your concern on the TSworder wagon I thought looked towny and I would expect scum to not care about the wagon. I noticed you have like 5 town reads and some of the town reads you gave on players what they did is nai. I'm looking for town posts that I would expect scum on not to do.
I noticed alot of votes got piled on TSworder and if TSworder is scum it makes me wonder if he's already being bussed since scum know who their partners are and will vote a doomed buddy for the town cred.
Magic
Resplendent
flowa ive seen you express frustration in regards to the past few games where you felt youve had the right lead but just weren't listened to, correct?
even here, if youre town, im sure what youre going for is "we need multiple wagons to see where people lie and which direction they go as when flips happen later on it will be crucial info".
unfortunately you can't just ask for people to do this. if you want to push prof for example make a case of it. use the reference that you brought up to me, write a paragraph as to why you think it's scummy even while he's openly admitting to it being his scum meta, and then ask specific people(not generally) to help build support for your wagon. we just got a vote count, you can ask people that are just not voting anyone while participating. ask people like psychic who said they're not doing anything due to being busy.
i understand you may not appreciate this unsolicited advise but it will help with what annoys you(imo of course).
Magic
Resplendent
1) i agree with that as a general tell. town get annoyed at being wagon, scum get annoyed at the reasons they're wagoned(i.e. "i am scum but i would be doing this anyway so this is stupid. they're just lucky that they're correct"). the annoyance comes from the fact it isn't something they should be lynched over and they dont like that any town players will be happy even tho in their own mind it isnt something that was alignment indicative.
Tbh I'm just never confident to push anything hard.
So far I'm satisfied with what I've seen from Prif since he contributed, though, so not that sure about that direction anymore.
Let me see if I see sth the next few hours, then I'll come back to that method, maybe.
Juliet
Illustrious
Realized I made a mistype on the last sentence in the second paragraph and I meant to say looking for town posts that I would expect scum won't be able to fake.
. Magic
Resplendent
if youre a logic based player then, as scum(if youre good), that would carry over. as in everything you do can be explained away or defended against or reasoned away. i know this as im the same way, every action has a justified reason that can be explained away, even as scum. the better you are, the better you again reason away even mislynches and incorrect pushes.
to summarize, if youre the type of people i think you are he's not wrong to use tone arguments or other things outside of that against you, even if it feels unfair for you as there's nothing you can do to defend against. people on WS/WF just flat out started lynching me at times if i was wrong too often and not wanting to hear my defense as my defense would be better than their argument(this tended to lead to mislynches more often than me being lynched as scum), but it is not without its basis.
Well I was explaining why *I'm* disregarding it - personally I don't think anything I've said comes off as scummy in terms of the way I say it, but of course I would say this anyway. However, he should still be able to establish that tone tell (whether it be through posts or a general pattern) hence my position.
For the record, I think tone is a poor way to read me too - I personally believe my ability to fake tone is the strongest aspect of my scum game. I have no qualms with my read accuracy, but it's far too early in the game to make that argument.
Magic
Resplendent
id suggest going through things outside of your wagon and making some reads if you want the pressure off.
One reservation I had is that a lot of TSworder's post hinged on his claim - which gave me the impression that he'd have something strong to add. Here he claims "Vanilla" - I don't believe anyone is Vanilla in this game, firstly because how do you upgrade a Vanilla role via the Grand Magic Games mechanic? And secondly, because Ekko advertised this as Role Madness, and prior experience with the host tells me he believes Role Madness is where every player has a role. I will however have to fact check this with Arcane.
Which is to say, I think the Vanilla claim is pretty weak.
T sword wagon and the fact everyone seems to agree he’s scum is interesting. Haven’t seen a lot of other strong pushing or scum leans so far besides him. TSworder
Majin
Town lean on Aurelian and Magic, thats about it
TSworder
Majin
Im vanilla this phase, my role is decent after I unlock my 3 abilities
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