Game Ranked The Traitors Mafia

[Emil]

could scum not use this ability sooner. fang was in alot of danger last day

think its pretty bonkers if its a guranteed mislynch tbh

 

[Natalija]

Uh, except we weren't at "this point" when you asked, were we?

Yeah, I asked at the point when almost everyone claimed and you started being very suspicious. Don't act like claiming isn't part of the game

 

[Emil]

Would you had any better targets in mind?

who do u have as top 2 scum rn? everyone shud give a list in order

flower
ratchet
aurelian
nat
richard
shep
ultra

wud be my ranking

 

[Ultra]

Yeah, I asked at the point when almost everyone claimed and you started being very suspicious. Don't act like claiming isn't part of the game

You know what, I'll consider your sagely advice and claim outright next game.

 

[Ultra]

could scum not use this ability sooner. fang was in alot of danger last day

Not really.

 

[Natalija]

You know what, I'll consider your sagely advice and claim outright next game.

Meh Ultra

You know very well there's a difference between *instantly claiming* and claiming eventually.

 

[Flower]

Ok

Out of the living players:

Me - one shot OMGUS cop
Aurelian - two shot vanilla cop, I absolutely trust him, he investigated and defended hime, and also investigated Hans' role (who is now Ratchet) as vanilla
Shep - eh more townie than not
Usopp - claimed two shot watcher, claimed he was offered a conversion the previous night (Pein said a successful conversion would be in the WU), kept lynching townies
Ultra - not yet claimed anything, absolutely kept lynching townies every day
Rich - claimed N3+ voyeur

Remaining scum probs among the last three who last day lynched our bus driver hime based on nothing, but I think the game is lost anyhow

For @Ratchet also

Alright, so looking at these claims…

I believe Richard is just scum. A Voyeur makes no sense to have when a conversion hasn‘t even happened yet since he could just prevent confirmed Townies from being converted. And he‘s not even the special invest role.

Working with all 4 Trial players being Town, scum should be between Kekko, Fang and Ultra. No idea why both Kekko and Ultra believe the other is Town and also seemingly believe Rich. From their pov the scum team should just always be Richard/Fang if they believe each other to be Town. You also have to consider actions weren‘t locked yet when Psychic was modkilled and they were also attempting a kill. Which means the day was always gonna start with a 5vs2 split this day phase. Which means in their minds they would have won after next night granted the conversion is successful since 4vs2 after a forced mislynch and 3vs3 and parity after the following conversion. Which any Townie would probably take at this point.

 

[Ultra]

Meh Ultra

You know very well there's a difference between *instantly claiming* and claiming eventually.

Well, this is eventually.

 

[Flower]

Conclusion: All 4 players on this list are Town and scum confirmed them thinking they won.

 

[Natalija]

Alright, so looking at these claims…

I believe Richard is just scum. A Voyeur makes no sense to have when a conversion hasn‘t even happened yet since he could just prevent confirmed Townies from being converted. And he‘s not even the special invest role.

Working with all 4 Trial players being Town, scum should be between Kekko, Fang and Ultra. No idea why both Kekko and Ultra believe the other is Town and also seemingly believe Rich. From their pov the scum team should just always be Richard/Fang if they believe each other to be Town. You also have to consider actions weren‘t locked yet when Psychic was modkilled and they were also attempting a kill. Which means the day was always gonna start with a 5vs2 split this day phase. Which means in their minds they would have won after next night granted the conversion is successful since 4vs2 after a forced mislynch and 3vs3 and parity after the following conversion. Which any Townie would probably take at this point.

Why do you think they were attempting a kill?

 

[Flower]

Why do you think they were attempting a kill?

Nobody claimed to have gotten an invite so far and there was no successful conversion.

 

[Emil]

I have mentioned, several times, that sentiments Fang has expressed come across as ingenuine, which would fold under tone. Several elements of his play here look similar to your money Heist game, especially in how he argues his points.

i can see that, yes. i can also see elements similar to gogeta's game. i do not see similar elements to elden ring. he seem to give up and crumble there. or for insance, flower's radiance mafia where he also crumbled under pressure. here it seems he belives in whatever shit comes out of his mouth

Fang had a few posts yesterday to the sentiment of "even if Psychic is town I will lynch Ekko next" - do you have no comment on that?
NAI, he wasn't in serious contention.
I actually thought I had mentioned it, suffice to say I don't like the use and I think it's safe for him to claim if they're scum together.

no i agree content wise fang is super scummy. i commented on that yesterday and all i received was a chatGPT response of "i dont belive you"

You are advocating for the suspension of thought on the basis that the game is just unbalanced - and you expect me to accept this premise out of hand. Do you realise this?

not unbalanced, just swingy.
scum being vigged and then mafia having no successful night kill TWICE and being denied recruit makes town in a good shape despite the 4 mislynches

the ratio was also town favored from the start 13-3

 

[Natalija]

Nobody claimed to have gotten an invite so far and there was no successful conversion.

Unless if this day ability's "condition" is no kill the previous night.

I really doubt they shot at the shield

 

[Emil]

tbh if the mafia has to sacrifice a night kill in order to create that lynch list its *possible* all 4 are town

because they basically transfer their night kill to a lynch, and then do another night kill next night

im interested in fang's response to ratchet. i think lack of any response is interesting asfk

 

[Flower]

Anyway, it‘s safe to assume the kill target was outside of the 4 players, so my guess is they tried killing Ultra. Which gives a PoE of Kekko, Richard and Fang.

 

[Emil]

tried killing Ultra. Which gives a PoE of Kekko

these 2 dont even work together. i never kill ultra here as scum

i already lost psychic who was a supporter of mine

im not going to shoot ultra, another supporter

 

[Flower]

Unless if this day ability's "condition" is no kill the previous night.

I really doubt they shot at the shield

Doubtful. As Ratchy said this mech is a given with no clear conversions. So I think they just hit protect.

 

[Emil]

Doubtful. As Ratchy said this mech is a given with no clear conversions. So I think they just hit protect.

WU says there was no murder

There was no murder last night.

@T-Pein™ are u allowed to say if this means there was no kill attempt?

 

[Flower]

these 2 dont even work together. i never kill ultra here as scum

i already lost psychic who was a supporter of mine

im not going to shoot ultra, another supporter

I literally just told you scum had a clear path to victory from the previous night going forward. Supporters don‘t matter anymore from this pov. You forget actions weren‘t locked yet when Psychic was killed.

 

[Ratchet]

thoughts on her offering herself like that?

None really - if she's town then she's ready to fold, if she's scum she's angling for that exact argument. Lean town I guess.