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Final Fantasy XIV Mafia - Game Thread

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Grammaton

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dont know either. im done doing his defense for him tho 🤷‍♂️

I mean I personally don’t mind someone trying to play devils advocate fwiw

Tbh the biggest thing that bothers me is Evans - I don’t really like his posts either but I’d find it hard to see fang and him aligned in some respects, given the post fang made to evans about tpein- I can’t see a S/S reason for it
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
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I mostly agree with your reads but they feel very safe. You have only one scum lean at this stage?

I am trying to solve Magic by establishing his motives. I was very impressed by his scum game during the Monster Hunter game and i am actually a bit surprised you think he will benefit town as scum.

Why do you not like Psychic?
yes one lean scum and a bunch of nulls and bunch of ppl with FoS on that can move to scum

im not connecting with psychic this game. i'll be able to get a better read of her as game goes i guess. she is playing with 0 pressure this game so thats y maybe why her posts come off with 0 agency

i think magic is playing protown. interacting with players and trying to get their thoughts and forming town reads is a general protown play. if hes doing it as scum he is helping town and himself, but not helping his team. last game he had to make awkward vote hops cuz of this thats where we'd swap read to scum side
 

Emil

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Because Fang jumped right into insults and seemed like he wanted to give off the air that he was 'aggressive' this game. I feel when Fang is town, there's a bit of 'misunderstanding' in his arguments. Last game, I backed away from him immediately because I felt he was misrepresenting what I was saying and the amount of seriousness I was saying things with, and I realized that was something he actually believed and that he wasn't understanding the situation. Here, he knew perfectly well what was going on, but just got stuck on loop with Gram saying the same thing over and over, trying to go back to the same thing because there was nothing else to say.

Yeah, I do think I'm someone who can read Melkor decently well; remember in the DCEU game I caught Melkor right away. I do think his questions this game were honest and I think his thought process feels natural here.
seems like best direction to move game forward at this point

can u talk to me more about the town read of cp. which points did u agree with and felt like he was solving? could they not come from scum cp?
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
T-Pein can still get in the bin. His entry to the thread calling me scum and his posts are dog shit

Aurelian can go in the bin too

CP is striking me as odd as he’s just circling around your interaction with Aurelian rather than pushing it as well. Seems to be trying to blend in on the wagon without committing to the push
Weird how this is your read on TPein and yet youre shading me and downplaying my posts about TPein as if I didn't say he's playing exactly how he did when I nailed him as scum
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
Aurelians whole process of claiming does feel like shit tho and I'm not sure they'd be scum together
 

Emil

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T-Pein can still get in the bin. His entry to the thread calling me scum and his posts are dog shit

Aurelian can go in the bin too

CP is striking me as odd as he’s just circling around your interaction with Aurelian rather than pushing it as well. Seems to be trying to blend in on the wagon without committing to the push
nice, agree on cp. down to yeet even before aurelian
 

Emil

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I will speak up if I see someone getting dogpilled. It doesn't mean we are aligned in any way. As scum I would just let them continue.

In one post Aurelian thought I was ganging up on him too, simply for commenting and saying he plays emotionally here.
this isnt very true btw. as scum u defended me before when ppl were suspecting me on gogeta's game in NF, which ironically made them suspect u and u got lynched iirc
 

Xadlin

Distinguished
V.I.P. Member
on page 7
from what I zapped between the pages, milker seems townish. like they put effort into finding out.
magic did do the town reads early so feels good there to

only ones that are lower in posts then me are natlija and close to me is psychic.
ill check up on sworder and odds posts.

also odd wrote some posts about being cleared as town? feels strange since its hard to confirms town on day 1 unless you have familiarity and you can see the commitment
 

Magic

Resplendent
i think magic is playing protown. interacting with players and trying to get their thoughts and forming town reads is a general protown play. if hes doing it as scum he is helping town and himself, but not helping his team. last game he had to make awkward vote hops cuz of this thats where we'd swap read to scum side
not that id ever want to play similar to my game last game, but if this is how you feel is the best way to read me why would you announce it in the thread opposed to waiting to see if i actually do this very thing?

aren't you worried i'd just adjust?
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
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On what basis?
i dont have a reason to town read him

this is what i recall from cp

> opened by telling evans not to talk about tpein. very easy topic to have as scum
> tagged psychic multiple times for asking her to do stuff. this goes nowhere. nor from cp's side nor psychics. potential teammate equity
> cant tell his stance on the you vs aurelian topic. as evans mentioned it feels like cp is wishy washy about this wagon. i ant really tell u other than this who he really scum reads
> his comments are honestly nitpicking easy inconsistencies that town can make all the time, like his posts to tpein. this isnt really solving. this is scum fake contributing


i dont have anything from cp to town read him off
 

Magic

Resplendent
I’d appreciate a rundown, and if not, I will just take it from here
there's a 20 page argument of odo/aurelian. the reactions of everyone else and where they stand are telling.

to sum it real quick, odo didn't like that aurelian's initial response to an accusation was insults opposed to defending himself at a larger capacity as he often does(and then afterwards proceeded to do with odo).

also, as i feel like it's getting lost in the shuffle, i wasn't really a big fan of aurelian letting people talk down his game because as town i've often seen him get indignant when people talk down his game whereas this game he was talking down his own game, liking posts inferring that his own game should be met with lower standards, and replied to a tweet post where he said he's basically beating a dead horse and asking him if that isn't what matches his town meta.

he eventually claimed voyeur.
 
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