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Final Fantasy XIV Mafia - Game Thread

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Hans Tweetenberg

Exceptional
All those people not in my town reads I can see as potential scum. Cp had equity with you(and aurelian as odo just said).

Lethal could be scum too as I didn't like much of what I saw from his read back. His demeanor was soft and the only one he was at all harsh to was tpein. Contrast thst to his standard town game where he mud flings multiple people with giant multi quotes.

I thought bpd was scummy but his defense had almost no self preservation to it so I'm not sure anymore.
Good point on Lethal tbhtbh
 

Hans Tweetenberg

Exceptional
May I ask what this is based on? Self preservation is the strongest motivator there is for most of these/you folk?
IIRC in Elden Ring he mostly tried to chainsaw down arguments against him but never confidently counterpushed anyone, I think he'd be too much of a coward to do that as scum

Feel free to remind me what that one game was like tho, I remember him and you having a big ole insult battle in some game and he turned out to be scum iirc
 

Odd

Fuck the police
V.I.P. Member
townreading

flip flopping votes

townreading

Here magic Omgus melkor and trying to gain traction, although he townread him earlier

rolefishing

townreading

townreading again.

He also townread Nat (cant find the post) when she hasn't posted anything substantial, like at all.

POCKETING.

Here Magic successfully pocketed Odd.

Magic simplys townreads and pockets everyone while OMGUS on me and Melkor because we sus him. I believe Magic is in full panic mode, and even threaten CP. Magic is probably the mafia Godfather.
I don’t get pocketed much playing this game, because I hate town by default
 

Grammaton

Consigliere
Moderator
IIRC in Elden Ring he mostly tried to chainsaw down arguments against him but never confidently counterpushed anyone, I think he'd be too much of a coward to do that as scum

Feel free to remind me what that one game was like tho, I remember him and you having a big ole insult battle in some game and he turned out to be scum iirc

I don’t understand what you mean by not confident enough - he basically took 12 hours away (and yes I’m aware real life, work etc is a factor) and saw BPD had some interest

Basically I’m struggling to see why you think this is slam dunk town over scum trying a different tac

As for the other game, it was Ultras scum cop fiasco game if you want to check it out?
 

Grammaton

Consigliere
Moderator
My biggest problem in this game is that there’s 2 camps of people - the group who are playing are alll doing stuff that looks ostensibly good to me (Ekko, Magic, CP, Tweet, can now add Evans even though I still have reservations) and the rest that are just doing exploitable goofy shit, or worse, nothing at all

So like the playing camp have pluses and minuses against them - For example I think some of magics town reads are extremely tenuous, and tbh I find his town read of me a tad generous as surely he must acknowledge there’s nothing I’ve done today I couldn’t do as scum (like if you wanted to make the case, you could argue I tunnelled an exploitable player, big whoop) - but the cases against him are so ill conceived and shabby that they raise more questions about the people making them (Psychic in this instance)

This isn’t me saying I think Magic is scum, it’s more that I have a healthy respect for him as a player - he isn’t going to panic and start OMGUSing and making the case he is is for the birds.

I know some of you think we’re overbearing dickheads but like, the games hard enough without having to decipher an additional layer of selfishness and erratic behaviour

Meh
 

Hans Tweetenberg

Exceptional
I don’t understand what you mean by not confident enough - he basically took 12 hours away (and yes I’m aware real life, work etc is a factor) and saw BPD had some interest

Basically I’m struggling to see why you think this is slam dunk town over scum trying a different tac

As for the other game, it was Ultras scum cop fiasco game if you want to check it out?
I don't _really_ wanna check it out, I was hoping you'd just tell me about it

Call me arrogant but I don't think Fang has got a sudden new strategy like that in him. What I will grant you is the fact that it looked like he'd already given up but then when the BPD wagon came in he suddenly sprang to new life and tried his hardest to put himself in front of the wagon. And I guess at that point the question is, how much does he really gain from that if BPD is town?
 

Grammaton

Consigliere
Moderator
I don't _really_ wanna check it out, I was hoping you'd just tell me about it

Call me arrogant but I don't think Fang has got a sudden new strategy like that in him. What I will grant you is the fact that it looked like he'd already given up but then when the BPD wagon came in he suddenly sprang to new life and tried his hardest to put himself in front of the wagon. And I guess at that point the question is, how much does he really gain from that if BPD is town?

bro come on, you’re a 4 year vet, this is a silly question

There isn’t much I can tell you about the other game cause the situations aren’t comparable
 

Magic

Resplendent
So like the playing camp have pluses and minuses against them - For example I think some of magics town reads are extremely tenuous, and tbh I find his town read of me a tad generous as surely he must acknowledge there’s nothing I’ve done today I couldn’t do as scum (like if you wanted to make the case, you could argue I tunnelled an exploitable player, big whoop) - but the cases against him are so ill conceived and shabby that they raise more questions about the people making them (Psychic in this instance)
I'll stop being so confident in my town reads once they start leading me astray. Aside from a minor blip in 2019 that has never happened so the confidence shall remain.

And it's your behaviour during the push itself not just the target.

You should probably post an actual reads list tho with more detailed reads.
 

Magic

Resplendent
Amazing I'll sleep on it. I doubt either a lethal or psychic wagon will really pick up on their own and if it comes down to aurelian and bpd my preference is aurelian.
 

Grammaton

Consigliere
Moderator
I'll stop being so confident in my town reads once they start leading me astray. Aside from a minor blip in 2019 that has never happened so the confidence shall remain.

And it's your behaviour during the push itself not just the target.

You should probably post an actual reads list tho with more detailed reads.

For whose benefit? I literally just said of the people playing, there’s some stuff I like and some I don’t. Any of the guys I tagged and asked to play more, I’d be happy to lynch too but not until Aurelian is dead. If fang is scum then CP will move directly to the top of my suspect list unless he can explain why he had a personality transplant which conveniently preserved the life of a scum player

My fundamental line here is lynch Aurelian today
 

Grammaton

Consigliere
Moderator
I'll stop being so confident in my town reads once they start leading me astray. Aside from a minor blip in 2019 that has never happened so the confidence shall remain.

And it's your behaviour during the push itself not just the target.

You should probably post an actual reads list tho with more detailed reads.

I mean, the bolded is extremely convenient as it provides you with carte blanche to give TMI reads unmolested as scum, don’t you think?
 

Natalija

Divine Departure
i have no connection, no
i think cp is scummier than tpein and aurelian, and could be simply jumping from one mislynch to another


is this a real question? u expect him to answer something different other than the 120+ posts he already had on the topic?
Yes ofc it’s a real question, there are two sides to every story, and Magic could be twisting it for all I know. I find it VERY odd Aurelian has nothing to say. When he’s town he’s very vocal.
were u able to catch up?
No, I don’t have time to read all these pages
 
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