Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo


terran saying the truth a shame it won`t change much

I mean this is ultimately no different than how hard they lie about the Nasuverse Cosmology and where the characters actually stand at.
They legit act as if Nasuverse Humans and Mages are BARELY a step up from Normal Humans when you have Humans at their peak be as ludicrous as Hansa being reduce a huge chunk of rubble thrown at him to dust with some small ass swords or Svin dodging Lightning Magecraft which then got amped further by Weather Manipulation and yet Touko caught his ass mid movement while not being able to see the fight.

Or the fact that they believe all of a Servant's strength is in their Noble Phantasm despite Jeanne being able to block a nearly Critical Spartacus attacks twice, gets hit by the third and survives and that third attack produced a shockwave that shook a small City kilometers above the ground like a violent shockwave or a Servant(Still Jeanne) tends to have an equivalent of an entire Ocean's worth of Magical Energy within them and not be instantly gassed out.

It's also the same deal with Star Wars and completely ignoring the EU and KOTOR and doing terrible misinterpretations of how the Force works because they legit hate the series.
 

Paxton

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oh boy, demon slayer vs rwby


the ultimate battle of madeupstats.net :tupac
 

Paxton

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Didn't OP has Kiku who's explicitly Trans (male to female)? Shoudn't they use her instead if.they want a rep
Considering how almost nobody likes the Scabbards.... that's not very good rep either :tupac
 

Proto234

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Considering how almost nobody likes the Scabbards.... that's not very good rep either :tupac
True, probably they're using Yamato since she's more popular (tbh, I don't know what makes her popular). It's the same with Astolfo where the community uses him as Trans rep despite D'eon' existence
 

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oh boy, demon slayer vs rwby


the ultimate battle of madeupstats.net :tupac
Ultimate Scarlet Rot.
 

Welsh_Dragon

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what the fuck
im the biggest Radahn fanboy ever but ive also…actually read the lore and there is nothing indicating he was holding back against Malenia, every source says they were equals and fought to a stalemate. He is an honorable guy, aside from his lore we see him let her prepare to fight him properly.


elden beast not scaling is just lmao levels
It's in this thread and some other:
R s makes it clear that in Elden RIng, Sun exists and is referred to as a Star. Onyx Lord-who taught Radahn gravity magic-knew the difference between a star and meteors so Radahn was holding on to Stars. Buuut, Malenia, and Tarnished do not scale to it since ->Too Honorable, so he wasn't using his full power against them.
 

Humanity, at least the front face of it, is nowhere near advanced in comparison to Honkai Humanity. So unless the whole Mage's Association and a good, sizable portion of Atlas come out to do some cool shit, we already start off in very bad footing.

He really is underestimating alot of these goddamned groups, isn't he?
Atlas alone has the Seven Taboos which is a danger to the World(Which would still be Planetary+ regardless, thanks Textures) itself:
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This is ignoring the Burial Agency if we are including Ciel and Calvarro Star, Kiara Kisshioun if she's allowed(dear fuck) or the MA as a whole including the True Wandering Sea or if you want to include the Dead Apostle Ancestors or the Tsukihime/KnK cast minus Arcueid.

Besides that, biggest issue I'd say is whether humanity can find some way to harness the power of Honkai. I think it is more than feasible, but whether normal humans without the help of the absurd supernatural people can achieve it before Honkai escalates feels very dubious to me.

Why would Humanity need to harness the Honkai? That makes no sense with how either series tends to work. He's again giving little doubt to the Mages, The Church or otherwise who would absolutely find out and want to deal with the Honkai in various fashions.

Regardless, the world as a whole is gonna change drastically in the coming years, with nearly magical creatures holding inconceivable amounts of power by the reckoning of human common sense in vessels the size of (relatively) normal, if big animals and all of the other wacky bullshit the Honkai can conjure. What effects such a thing would have for the Human Order, the Magecraft of the Association, and how that may intermingle with any nascent attempts to harness Honkai feels rather hard to predict. Worse if Servants start appearing out of the planet's ass crack to intervene.

Why is this dude going on about with this fan fiction nonsense?

Herrschers is where I see things going really tits up. Servants or no Servants, that's gonna be a lot of people dead. Amusingly, though, I really wouldn't be surprised if "a very unique human" became a Herrscher and wrestled control of himself just because they are built different, people that are just born with special lego pieces seem to be a rather common quantity in Nasu. Whether such a person would actually side with humanity, though... maybe, who knows, I find the possible Chaos a lot more entertaining.

Yeah, then the Planet starts really cooking and Honkai ends up in a war it cannot conceivably win, even with Herrscher assistance...
 

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He really is underestimating alot of these goddamned groups, isn't he?
Atlas alone has the Seven Taboos which is a danger to the World(Which would still be Planetary+ regardless, thanks Textures) itself:
BRlr8dz.jpg


This is ignoring the Burial Agency if we are including Ciel and Calvarro Star, Kiara Kisshioun if she's allowed(dear fuck) or the MA as a whole including the True Wandering Sea or if you want to include the Dead Apostle Ancestors or the Tsukihime/KnK cast minus Arcueid.



Why would Humanity need to harness the Honkai? That makes no sense with how either series tends to work. He's again giving little doubt to the Mages, The Church or otherwise who would absolutely find out and want to deal with the Honkai in various fashions.



Why is this dude going on about with this fan fiction nonsense?



Yeah, then the Planet starts really cooking and Honkai ends up in a war it cannot conceivably win, even with Herrscher assistance...
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> Also, wasn't Honkai Humanity, or at least the previous version capable of creating a time-rewind machine capable of affecting the entire world? Don't see Nasu human creating anything on that scale anytime soon.

>Rest is bullshit, While The verse has some freaky powerful stuff, it's mostly never brought up. Nasu-humans fare better than Honkai Humans. The general firepower and haxx of sone side are too strong.

@ApocalypseOrchestra Were you an expert on Honkia, mind checking what I said? Some of this might be wrong with all the imaginary tree and sea bullshit.
Just checked that will of Honkai is not involved. Yah, Naus verse sweeps.
 

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> Also, wasn't Honkai Humanity, or at least the previous version capable of creating a time-rewind machine capable of affecting the entire world? Don't see Nasu human creating anything on that scale anytime soon.

>Rest is bullshit, While The verse has some freaky powerful stuff, it's mostly never brought up. Nasu-humans fare better than Honkai Humans. The general firepower and haxx of sone side are too strong.

@ApocalypseOrchestra Were you an expert on Honkia, mind checking what I said? Some of this might be wrong with all the imaginary tree and sea bullshit.
Just checked that will of Honkai is not involved. Yah, Naus verse sweeps.
You have the wrong person sorry I have a played a total of probably 2 hours for stuff made by mihoyo
 
> Also, wasn't Honkai Humanity, or at least the previous version capable of creating a time-rewind machine capable of affecting the entire world? Don't see Nasu human creating anything on that scale anytime soon.

Actually, that's the entire existence of Chaldea and even in Novum Chaldea, they still can send people back in time through Rayshifting. They may not be able to affect the entire World but that process still very much exists.

thread is horribly ill defined

a lot of the top tiers are technically not even under control of WoH at all

I had a general feeling there was something wrong with that thread but you saying that does actually clear it up for me.
 

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It's in this thread and some other:
R s makes it clear that in Elden RIng, Sun exists and is referred to as a Star. Onyx Lord-who taught Radahn gravity magic-knew the difference between a star and meteors so Radahn was holding on to Stars. Buuut, Malenia, and Tarnished do not scale to it since ->Too Honorable, so he wasn't using his full power against them.
lol
even by some insane logic dictating Malenia wasn’t scaling…Tarnished beats Godfrey and Placidusax both of which are elden lord tier…leagues beyond Radahn, so what the hell lol

the honor thing seems misunderstood too, Radahn’s whole environmental storytelling schtick is even as his brain literally rots away he protects his horse during the fight, keeps holding back the stars, and most notably he can fly into space at will…meaning he chooses to stay in the Wailing Dunes so as not to harm anyone.
 
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